Batman v Superman SUCKED? - #63

Dude Soup: Batman v Superman SUCKED? - #63

It's a banner day because two large men punched each other a lot. This is a big deal for some reason, so here we are to talk about it a lot.

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  • O-BEAST84 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I don't think it was as bad as everyone is saying. It's a bit too long. And there is a bunch of stuff in the movie that is obviously just there to set up for future movies. I think this movie will seem a lot better in about 5 years when all the other movies are out and all the pointless stuff ends up having meaning in the end. Like How marvel made Ironman 2. It's sole purpose is to set up a bunch of future movies. And it tries to give you a little bit of story while it does it. All in all, if you are a superman or batman fan then you'll probably like it. If not, then you might not enjoy it too much. MARVEL RULES!!!!!

  • Andria_G FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I ran into Adam and Lawrence right after they saw Batman vs Superman and proceeded to embarrass myself by not being able to get a word out after choking hard like 3 times before getting to tell Adam I'm a big fan. Super relieved no mention of an awkward fan interaction.

  • Reclaimer0418 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I couldn't get into the damn movie because the audio wasn't synced with the video... notwithstanding the terrible plot

  • RKezizz The Worst Sponsor

    1 year ago

    These movie Podcast discussions are always interesting for me, because I see them with an outsider perspective, I rarely watch movies. So, having no opinion and seeing other's opinions is an interesting experience.

  • SamuelF FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    that flash scene could have worked if bruce woke up with the flash on his computer screne

  • SamuelF FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    you guys are slighty blind

  • SamuelF FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    how do you even watch a marvel movie then?

  • cpond1 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    You guys mentioned the extended director's cut at the end there. The same thing happened with the Total Recall remake. The theatrical version was (in my opinion) absolute garbage and made no sense whatsoever. The extended Director's Cut was 1000 times better, with vital story elements added in to actually give the plot some form of cohesion. I'm curious what they're going to do with the BvS director's cut, hopefully something similar.


    As for BvS. I enjoyed it but felt that there was probably a good hour or more of the film that was completely superfluous. Which is pretty much the same opinion I had of Man of Steel.


    Did anyone else think Wonder Woman's theme tune was a little over the top? It seemed to be almost double the volume of anything else in the film.

    • tvnut FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Totally! To be fair, by the time we reached that point of the movie, I wasn't completely invested in what was happening. So the electric guitar riff definitely took me out of what was happening.

  • bundgaardx FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    While I agree in most of the things you guys said about BvS, I actually really liked it even though I did have some "wtf?" moments every now and then, while watching it. You guys always have some pretty valid points that makes me question wether I actually like a movie or not. Also I absolutely love hearing you guys talk about movies, cause you always notice things that I don't, and it makes the experience of watching a movie again a bit different, which I love.

  • AdamWest1 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Everything they are saying about the production of this franchise is what I am terribly afraid is happening to Star Wars

    • MilesTheGreat FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zinc Saucier

      1 year ago

      I think disney knows how easily they can f^ck it up so i think they're going to be more conscientious with their production

  • AbstractSpaces FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Was it Lawrence who said that wasted potential stings more than something just being bad? I get a similar feeling all the time, I'm most critical of things that I would have liked if the execution were a bit different.

  • TheCommissar113 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Building off what James said, I agree that the superhero genre is inevitably going to drop off due to fatigue; it happens all the time in media and, hell, has been a noticeable trend in previous superhero films. The Christopher Reeve Superman movies didn't go on forever, nor did the 80's/90's Batman films, nor the Sam Raimi Spider-Man films, and the X-Men films almost died, but were breathed into life again some time later (but they may as well be a different series).

    The general audience is going to get tired of them at some point, and while I do enjoy a fair amount of them, I'm definitely getting there myself. I can't bring myself to see any in theaters unless it's a character or team that I really love from the comics (Guardians of the Galaxy, for instance), although I know that I'm not a milestone to judge others by. I feel like if the decline will be after Avengers: Infinity War is finished, since Marvel Studios is the primary lead in terms of the superhero movie genre, and it's been slowly building up to this loosely since Iron Man, and more firmly since The Avengers itself. Once that's hit, I suspect box office numbers will start dropping; most likely not an immediate plummet, but a beginning.

    Note that I'm not claiming to be some kind of omniscient authority on this, it's only my opinion.

  • RemyEvermore FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Great podcast guys, I really enjoyed the discussion and debate because they brought up

    a few things that I often feel are happening frequently industry and societal level.


    The first was the issue of the way films are marketed and public investment in the products.

    I really don't think most people are aware that they aren't compelled to see a superhero movie

    or many other movies because it's the concept that they love, it's just a brand name that they

    have associated with enjoyment for a period of time and now unknowingly associate with being an entertaining product. Along the same issue of brand vs concept is the trend of people not becoming unable to accept the fact that new interpretations of a property are exactly that; new. As you guys often say about people fearing change or chasing the high of discovering something for the first time, it's about time to accept that our 'beloved originals' are only able to be called that because of these new interpretations.


    BvS side note-

    I've always had an issue with Superman in any format that is based on a simple issue, he is a literal god. As weird as it is to say this, Superman being a god makes for one of the most one dimensional characters in a fictional universe. I say that based on the fact that the premise of him being a living god means that his context overshadows the existence of other characters, and offering up opponents like Doomsday or Darkseid does little to change that - either Supes wins and all is saved, Supes loses and all is lost or the ever redundant 'Superman and 'The big bad' both killed each other' which makes the conflict a moot point.

    But that's just how I see it.

  • Nick-ilicious141 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    That moment when Adam dissed Avengers 2 but is excited for Suicide Squad XD

  • resistorserv FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Toaster Repair Pony

    1 year ago

    Zootopia was a fantastic movie why couldn't they have done a zootopia podcast instead?

  • akorndr2 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    i agreed with a lot of this, i enjoyed the characters and the conflict between the moral compass between sups and bats. it was so clever please give us the directors release :P

  • Jammiwam FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I'm so happy James likes Zootopia

  • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I'm not sure about anyone else, but I really like the Marvel method of making movies. I'm really excited that Godzilla is doing that and I hope Warcraft is going that route. I'm also shocked that Lawrence was surprised that the philosophical nonsense went nowhere.

  • derWaliser FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Jeez, talk about holding something to a high standard; it's like someone going to a back-alley Chinese takeaway and writing a four page review on Google reviews. The reason I like comics and the Marvel films is because they're pure eye candy. It simply entertains. If you're looking for a deeper intellectual message, then maybe you should pick up a book.

    • TheCommissar113 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      I think their point was that Batman vs Superman tried to have a "message" to it, but failed to deliver or forgot about it halfway through. They said they like the Marvel movies, which have no message to them, after all.

  • CPUandMe Formerly Firedash

    1 year ago

    It was just an okay movie but I had fun watching it so that's all that matters

  • JoseGarcia4 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    27 minutes in, I think another pay off is the scene where Batman breaks into Lex's cell and instead of branding him to be killed like the other people he did that to. He held himself back, showing me that he was trying to get back to the Batman he was before Jason Todd dies, and his need to not see Superman as person so that he could bring himself to kill him(of course that had the unintended consequence that he no longer saw criminals he was fighting as people either).

  • JoseGarcia4 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    21 minutes in, but wasn't the first Suicide Squad trailer a comic con only thing? meaning that it wasn't really a trailer just a quick look into the movie for the fans that happened to be there?

  • JoseGarcia4 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    11 minutes in and Lawrence, Bruce is right.

  • AshLand Fightin' Round The World

    1 year ago

    They could have just shown the Wonder Woman photo and left the rest of heroes with just the icons. Most people who have seen the movies/read the comics know who they were for and those that didn't probably got dragged to see the movie by someone who knows.

    Affleck was great (hooray for gratuitous shirtless workout scenes), would have liked to have seen more about Robins suit and how it lead to this iteration of Batman and little less about obtaining kyptonite/psychotic Luthor, the desert fight scene was brilliant and the bat cave reminded me of the Mt Rushmore lair from Team America. Agree the dream sequence in the middle could have been a teaser at the end.

    Still enjoyed it for what it was though


  • hp_d0ugi3 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    @ 17:20 .. did anyone else get a video freeze with rap music randomly playing ?

  • Coltenks FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    nope.... Batman has never kicked more ass. Batfleck did a supreme job bringing batmans brutality to the big screen. honestly if they wouldve left Mark Zuckerberg and Doomsday out of the movie they wouldve had better success.

  • blancpage FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold ModerateOccasionallyPoor

    1 year ago

    A trailer spoiled all the moments in the film that would have otherwise carried me through the 2.5 hour slog towards the eponymous fight scene at the end. It wasn't boredom exactly, it was the exact feeling of straining for the equivalent amount of time trying to achieve climax, and never being fulfilled.

    Also

    Wonderwoman felt like a part of the film had been deliberately cut and edited to feel like a cameo. I'd understand the absolutely wordless build if the pay-off hadn't been spoiled in the trailer.
    The speed B&S go from foaming, deadly enemies to team mates gave me whiplash.
    The scene with dictator Superman made me think "I'd rather be watching THAT film"

    I don't need to know that the kryptonite is locally-sourced and fairtrade in a short film about the people behind the product.
    The grand finale fight felt like I was watching it from inside a tumble dryer full of glow sticks and dirt.

    Great scene with the bath tub, the court room, the head bonk... so many great concepts and moments. I'd go see it again for Lawrence's Director's Cut.
    Also, I had to be reminded that Superman died 2 days after watching it.