PS4 PRO: WHO CARES? - Dude Soup Podcast #87

Dude Soup: PS4 PRO: WHO CARES? - Dude Soup Podcast #87

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  • lootsorrow FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I'm sure the advertisers are thrilled with the fanfic segment. Keep it up! :3

  • IronChefKevin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Occasionally cool

    10 months ago

    Adams face during that porn reading is great.

  • Flashmeta FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Talking about exclusives and there being specific games that are supposed to drive people to consoles is interesting because that's the exact reason I ended up going to PC! I used to only play on a PlayStation and had a laptop for random games but had always wanted to get more into PC gaming, when XCOM 2 came out I discovered that my laptop couldn't run it and so immediately got together a gaming PC and since then have only played all the major games on that, Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Dark Souls III, Overwatch(the way it's mean't to be played), etc. The last game I played on PS4 was Ratchet & Clank and now it's just a Netflix box.


    As someone who went from console to PC not to long ago I don't see much reason for people to want to upgrade to a PS4 Pro or even a Scorpio when it comes out since, as I think James points out, there isn't anything specific that needs one of those consoles to be able to be played. Though since nothing has come out much about Scorpio that could change but for now they haven't said that Scorpio games will be their own thing.


    Does anyone think that these new consoles would do better if they had a specific game or games that had to be played on it, or even just have a feature or something that would imply that you could only get the full experience and intent of the game on this specific console. Sorry for all the words!

  • MRKRABBZz FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I have a PC that I built with a GTX 980 that run everything fairly well, I however listened to this podcast while playing Styx:Master of shadows a game I got for free with games with gold on a service I mainly pay for to play with my friends who only play FPSs and know jack shit comparatively about games and tech. I disagree with what James is saying because I do care about the quality and terraflop numbers Sony and Microsoft discuss because it means that while I do play games like halo, forza or whatever shit my friends want to with me, it will run better then it does now and be more reliable .

  • ArcticHris FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    i went from growing up on console, to playing on pc, to having a macbook for work where in my spare time i watch other adults get paid to play video games.


    not quite how i pictured adulthood. 

  • XBoxLingo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    That fan fiction was... something.

  • JoseGarcia4 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I haven't seen the Knightmare Batman suit, but I've seen the power armor and Deadshot suit on Xbox

  • JoseGarcia4 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Those problems that Lawrence was talking about with his computer are so weird to me. Guess I've been lucky to not have any of them.

    • SirLarr FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      They were unique for me too, weird.

  • justinthegeek FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    A E S T H E T I C S

  • MarkPorter1 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I have a 4k monitor. It's great. Everything is so crisp. Sadly, can't quite run new games in 4k at 60 fps. But older ones look great in 4k. 

  • Edgarcia801 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Seriously, though, fuck tomato on its own. James gets it. 

  • Arizona_Joe FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Where's the download link? I like listening to Dude Soup on the go.

  • 8bitdee FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold my views are your own

    10 months ago

    "Fuck no." 

    I like Bruce. He gets straight the point. He doesn't try to dissect or analyze Sony's marketing strategies or whatever in a half-assed attempt to make fun of them like James, or take a roundabout route to make a point like Adam. He simply says what everyone is thinking: no one fucking cares. Move on. Next topic.

  • Dr_Wondertainment FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Biscuits

    10 months ago

    MVP goes to Elyse's posture. Not Elyse, just her spine.

  • Nola_crumb FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Don't usually watch this podcast but I wanted to hear about the shity ps4 pro and just watched the whole thing instead. I really enjoyed the content but was a little confused at the end...... ya know....because of the shit baby

  • SciKosis

    10 months ago

    That sweet High Five™ at 40:12

  • King_Ansel FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    4k TVs are going down in price. I just recently got a 43 inch VIZIO for $350. Of course its still one more thing you have to buy, but it still pales on how much you have to get if you're building a PC. It's the same thing as when gaming went to HD. At least with this you can still use a 1080p TV, if you used an Xbox 360 or PS3 on a CRT TV you either had to go to SD 4:3 or have it pan and scan widescreen, which were both garbage and pretty much unusable.

  • joewidd

    10 months ago

    When are we gonna see Peake on here? I'm glad you guys added Elyse! But the whole crew should be apart of Dude Soup.

  • YAAYGAMES FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Strange and Confused

    10 months ago

    I think the last time game quality blew me away was twilight princess. It's obviously the fan boy speaking to me. But it was the first LOZ in HD that wasn't toon link. That was incredible and I will forever play it and be happy

  • ESCtheCTRL FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I was thinking about getting back into consoles because of the complexity of pc gaming. But then I turned on my xbox and saw the shit menus and had a game crash. I turned it off. It just wasnt worth it to me anymore. I wish we still had the xbox360 and ps3 quality consoles back.

  • sorryexscuseme

    10 months ago

    I'm growing out my beard in support of Bruce's. God Speed.

  • woard FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I don't understand the stuff about xbox updates, I almost never see them, even the dashboard updates happen automatically for me. 90% of the time i press the power button on my controller and I'm playing my game it 10 seconds. when there are updates i have to do, they tend to be fast, a few minutes tops.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      I think it's that they don't play it very often. The longest I've ever had to wait for an update are the really big ones or for games more then a year old with large patchs like AC Unity.

    • SirLarr FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      I think I've just had bad luck. Ideally all the updates apply while the console is in low-power mode, but my Xbox never seems to come out of that fine. I'll boot it up and it'll freeze, have no sound, or my personal favorite -- half the controller won't work.

  • YazzPott

    10 months ago

    How can anyone actually care about upscaling? >.>

  • KloneTuul FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    This was a bad move from Sony I think, but also one that could be expected. I'd like to compare it with a car. You can get this car for price a or you can get this car that is a little more expensive, but you get a small spoiler and some shiny rims so it looks a little better and performs a bit better.

  • Lorhechapol FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I think they're marketing to people like me. Young adults who were on the tail end of the newest console gen and got a ps4, but now have jobs and are moving away from consoles and know their next system will be a medium-high end pc.

  • AmiralPatate FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Sony can't capitalize teraFLOPS correctly, how am I supposed to trust they even know what they're talking about? I kid (well, mostly) but I feel Sony threw around a lot of meaningless technical buzzwords in hopes nobody will figure that it doesn't matter. I have trouble seeing who their message is addressed to beside a small fringe of their audience that may decide to throw $399.99 for 13.37% more jumbopixels or something.


    Also a bit of vitriol on Microsoft, Xbox Play Anywhere sounded nice at E3 but I saw a bit of a devil in the detail when trying to get Forza Horizon 3. You just can't buy the game as a PC game. Currently, you have to buy the Xbox One version (that comes with a free PC copy) at a 10-20€ markup over a standard PC game. Since I don't own a console, that's just a troll toll to me and I'm having none of it.


    On a side note, it's a bit funny to see the console ecosystems getting more and more complicated with installs, firmware updates, now figuring out which TV has all the right HDR and pixel resolution. At least they can say they close the gap with PC in one regard. But as long as they don't have KB+M support, free online multiplayer and a more open market, I don't see how they can even dream about capturing the PC audience.

  • DutchPotato FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I honestly think people are looking at this ps4 pro thing the wrong way. This isn't supposed to be a new console cycle and Sony isn't trying to replace the base ps4 with the ps4 pro. That's why they're also releasing a newer model of the current ps4 for the same price instead of trying to force the ps4 pro onto consumers. In my mind the ps4 pro by the end of the christmas holidays will be lucky to have sold even a million units (thats including people exchanging their old ps4's and updating to this new version). I'm sure Sony are well aware and are completely fine with and would possibly even pretty excited to see those sorts of sale figures.


    I think people should be looking at this like PSVR, not a huge amount of people will buy into it since it'll cost too much for a casual consumer and yet won't be as good as the vive, meaning the real hardcore gamers with money to throw around will probably just be buy a vive. However for people who already own a ps4 and want to get into VR without the huge price tag and lack of quality control that typically comes with steam and PC being as open as it is then PSVR is perfect for them and I honestly think the PS4 pro is a similar item. Not powerful enough for the real hardcores and not really different enough to justify spending the $100 over a regular ps4 for the more casual consumer, but for a very specific group of people who want the simplicity of gaming the ps4 provides but with just a little more juice and are willing to spend around $100 - $200 more the ps4 pro is a dream come true.


    I could very well be completely wrong on this but that's just what it all seems like to me and yes if you hadn't guessed I am the person I believe this console was made for and will most likely be picking one up this christmas.

  • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

    10 months ago

    W . T . F. @ the whole read around1:00:00

  • spud_1997 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    thing is with consoles down at 200 its hard for pc to compete with that, there is no way you can build a pc for 200 that can compete with a console, PC are better but at the moment consoles are easier and cheaper

  • AbstractSpaces FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I've been primarily a PC gamer for years but I've been using my PS4 more and more lately. The money and time and effort involved in building, maintaining and even using a PC is way higher than for a console even if you know exactly what you're doing. It becomes stressful and draining compared to a console, and I often find it's not worth the fun I get out of actually playing games.

  • Obsolete18 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    This might be a record for how condesending they are essentially saying console players are fucking retarded and dont know fucking anything about tech whatsoever

    • JO3Y0

      10 months ago

      Nope. They essentially said what they said. nothing more nothing less. If what they said made you feel like they said something more, then that's what you feel NOT What they said.

    • ESCtheCTRL FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      Its one thing to read between the lines, it takes a whole other talent to misread in between the lines. Kudos to you I guess...

  • wonderbread58 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Anyone else's audio out of sync?

  • Infern96 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Damn this was uploaded FAST good work whoever does this.

  • TheTwuh FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Coming from a "console" gamer. The only reason I don't play on PC is because I can't really afford a high end computer. I am currently trying to piece one together slowly but it's usually easier for people to just spend 300-400 bucks all at once rather than a couple hundred here and there to build a nice PC. At least that's kind of the way I see it. I'd rather have an awesome PC and use that for gaming but my finances don't really fit into that dream. I am slowly picking away at it though, doesn't help I got hurt and I'm off work though so there's that obstacle also.

  • Ajdeehring FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    That was a fast upload.