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Dude Soup: WESTWORLD VS PEDOPHILES - Dude Soup Podcast #90

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  • DMM

    10 months ago

    I actually created a new account just to post this comment, because I know that casting out this opinion is akin to committing social suicide.

    It pisses me off when people associate sexual offenders with pedophiles. There is no correlation! Trying to mix the two is the same thing as mixing the average person with a raper.

    Normal pedophiles should be pitied if anything. There are a lot more of them than people realize, and if people did realize, maybe they would feel sympathy. No sane person seeks to harm anyone let alone a child. Most pedophiles have an attraction to children and child-like appearances. This doesn't mean that they have any intention of having any sexual interaction with children, it simply means that they are attracted to the appearance in a sexual way.

    You remember how we all came to the realization that it was terrible to persecute gay people for being gay? Well, if you think about it, it's worse in this case, because a normal pedophile not only gets persecuted for their attraction, but they also have to live with the realization that even if it was legal, it would be wrong to indulge their attraction.

    Pedophiles are essentially the only group of people that have an attraction that holds a place in reality, but are forced into celibacy, because of its nature.

    You are correct that child molesters deserve to be punished and I won't deny that there is a part of me that gets joy from seeing one shamed, but THOSE people are not mentally well. Only a person that is already a mental mess would initiate themselves in that act. Does that justify it? No! But, the stigmata against pedophiles is disgusting in its own right. I can fully understand the frustration and rage towards child molesters and sexual offenders, considering that the damage they inflict is often irreparable, but you cannot let your emotions get the better of you and you need to realize that they are human beings too. Mentally damaged human beings, granted, but human beings nonetheless.  No crime deserves death (Elyse) aside from murder itself. IN FACT, people all the time will examine murderers and attempt to justify their actions (Game of Thrones being a great example) yet, these same people will develop the biggest level of blood-lust towards a pedophile. Why is that? Yes, if they engage with a child it is also a horrible crime, and, yet again, deserves a fitting punishment.


    Now, ask yourself seriously for a moment, which is a worse crime: murder or child molestation? I know it is cruel to ask this question as they are both horrible, but I feel that it needs to be asked, because we live in a society were pedophiles are treated worse than murderers. They prime example of this would Lawrence referring to pedophilia (keep in mind he said pedophilia and not child molestation) as the most evil thing in the world. This is not only really incorrect, but it is also the general public's opinion. I don't often call a person's opinion incorrect, but forgetting the wording for a moment, you are labeling a sexual offender as WORSE than a murder or in fact a mass murderer, because you gave no room for increase by saying the "most evil". I don't know if you were just trying to appease to the general public or if that is your honest opinion, but I am sad, because in either case, I thought you were above that Lawrence. I never thought you were a pedophile or even in support of them despite your jokes, but I never expected you to judge a person based on emotion and not fact.

    I could say so much more about this, but I've gone on long enough.  It's just extraordinarily sad to see pedophiles used as the universally hated scapegoat for all of America!

    I also get that you guys are a comedy channel and that this isn't your realm of topic to be tacking in the first place, but the fact of the matter is that people listen to you guys and use your opinions as guidelines for their lives whether you want them to or not and whether they should or not, and it is so saddening to see you feeding into what I consider a case of the bandwagon overriding logic. I'm not gonna pretend that I'm going to unsubscribe or stupid crap like that. This is an entirely separate matter and I love your videos. They've helped me through some dark times. I'll just go back to my normal account and pretend nothing happened, but who knows, maybe my opinion make you want me to unsubscribe. Maybe you hate me now that I've said this even though you don't know who I am. I don't mind, you wouldn't be alone.


    Sincerely, your loving fan, whether you want me or not.

    • beedle246 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Don't be Cody Be Haggar

      9 months ago

  • squidgeart

    10 months ago

    Shout out to Yul Brynner from the original Westworld movie.

  • ComradeCleaner FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    It seems in the current year pedophilia is a recurring theme on dude soup. Having worked in a jail for a short time I can tell you it is common practice for those of the pederast persuasion to be kept segregated from gen pop. As a current reserve law enforcement officer I was informed that were I ever to get put away (for any reason) i'd be in the same block as them. Former police officers last roughly the same time in gen pop as pedos. Along with pedos and disgraced cops "flagrant homosexuals" get kept in this block as well (that's the district attorney's words not mine). This was all side bar during a constitutional law lecture in our reserve officer class so we didn't really go deep in the weeds, but I guess there must be some delineation between guys who want intimate attention from their fellow inmates and those who don't want any. That and/or bigotry may exist inside the prison system where gay inmates might end up going for a ride on the license plate maker. At any rate with overcrowding at municipal, county, state, and federal level some pedos might not make it out the other side of their debt to society due to there being no room in the high risk ward. 

    Anecdotally the guy who sexually assaulted my older sister did make it out of one of New York State's roughest prisons (Auburn Correctional Facility). Some people get all the luck. Personally I only got the shit beat out of me by the guy so I got off fairly easy. I wouldn't mind a rematch since last go round I was four years old. My sister (who was 6 at the time) is 27 and is now married. She has had a pretty rough life even after getting molested (coma for 7 months from getting hit by a car in '07 extensive rehab to pretty close to fully functional). We all are shaped by our life experiences one way or another. Life goes on. 

    As always I enjoyed the episode. As I have said before the way you guys defuse serious topics is therapeutic. Keep up the great work.

  • SkilledWar

    10 months ago

    two quick things:

    1) Lawrence bagging on Game of Thrones, a show he hasn't watched in years, perfectly fits with what i'd expect from him.

    2) I'm sure that video at the end would be funny, but it's not really audible on the recording 

  • MacDaddyMuffin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I demand Gus for every episode now!!!!

  • aaronasael FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    11/10 on that ending lmao

  • Jdwallace FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I just started playing King's Quest and I thoroughly enjoy it. I only learned about the insanely long release structure a few days ago.

  • ytrahne FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Guardian x6

    10 months ago

    I actually love that I'm able to watch/listen to a podcast that is a Rooster Teeth property that actually talks about a variety of topics that could be controversial in an adult way.  Also having to look up a word is not the norm for me.  It was recidivism.  Thanks, Lawrence!

  • ajpantuso FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Interesting discussion on traditional justice vs restorative justice vs vigilante justice. The one thing I would add to that conversation is the concept of legitimacy. Restorative justice requires a totally legitimate government (Prisoners are not likely to engage in rehabilitation if they believe they were targeted, wrongly accused/convicted, unfairly sentenced, etc...), vigilante justice implies a lack of order or at least corruption i,e. an illegitimate government, and traditional justice can exist for governments anywhere in between. Because of this the United States has many larger social and political issues (Discrimination based on race/social status, For Profit prisons, lack of mental health facilities, Corruption in Policing and Court proceedings)  to address before restorative justice can be effectively implemented on a large scale. Also if you spend some time looking into places like Sweden and Japan you'll find that a lot of effort goes into the legitimate appearance of the state (Japan is reported to actively deceive the public about violent crime and Sweden has undercurrents of xenophobia/anti-semitism so the government takes a very open multicultural stance to pull attention from this)

  • wonderbread58 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I'm heading to a Fathom theater in order to watch Lets Play Live! I'm driving 2 hours to the nearest one.

  • Styx FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Really liked the podcast, super interesting discussion.


    Have to say I agreed with most of Adam's thoughts about the whole prison "justice" thing, if you can even call it that, and actually thought it was really weird that the others were so supportive of it. I get where they're coming from, but It seems to me that we should b holding ourselves to a higher standard than criminals and the dangerously insane.

  • Boletaria99

    10 months ago

    I have to say the Talk about Prison Justice was actually really cool to hear, regardless of my opinion it was cool to see somebody really disagreeing with another person and then conversing about it to try to come to some conclusion! Not saying you guys all agree with each other all the time, its just nice to hear Debating on the Podcast. Lawrence please if you could continue to pick Charged topics they are so interesting to hear! at least for like a section of the show "Sonntags Squabbles"  Love ya Guys and all that! P.S Twits and Crits Season 1 is over and i am staying as a First Member (Probably because of The post show and Fullhaus) bruce adam benson  james elyse lawrence... Yeah i just found these emotes by accident 2 seconds ago.

  • zombee.meat FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Was anyone else there live when some guy was tweeting them every two minutes to turn the volume up for at least an hour.. haha

  • thewadejack

    10 months ago

    Also thank God for all of you! Easily the first persona I have heard say that the World is better and that it's just that Bad things don't happen in a vacuum anymore. Renegade for LIFE!!!!!!

  • thewadejack

    10 months ago

    ISLANDS ARE PERFECT!!!! So funny, Yall, have some conviction, I know the death penalty isn't popular right now but if a person can hurt a child as a a child's voice yells out no please no stop. That Child's life is destroyed and twisted in a way that can never be fully healed without spiritual interference (but Ill keep God out of the comments to not spark a war). That molester's Life should not be viewed as such, that is not a life, that is a lost monster and animal that should be culled. Society is missing the Darwin philosophy that is so loudly praised. The lesser should be culled, We can all be certain that a molester is of this lesser sect of society at least right? Such monsters should have no place in this world

  • AbstractSpaces FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I really appreciate that Adam was interested in justice beyond simple vengance, and giving people a chance to redeem themselves. It's an attitude that is far too rare in my opinion.

  • miles_hayes FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    That beginning was too deep, I just wanted to relax. Still love it.

  • sofa420 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Could you guys throw up the links to the background videos in the description? That Miyamoto one looked pretty interesting.

    • SirLarr FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      Usually we do... didn't make it into this description for some reason. It's in the YouTube description.

  • ElctrcScrcrw (it's Electric Scarecrow

    10 months ago

    Doogie Howser. lol

  • PieBoy94 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    they should put a Dog bed on top of the table


    so Benson or Bruce can sleep on it during the podcast 

  • PieBoy94 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    The audio was fine for me

    • AbstractSpaces FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      They re-uploaded it, it was inaudible at first.

  • BeardedJeff FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I love Elyse. She's the best. 

  • PieBoy94 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I'm upset that Bruce or James arent there in the beginning, then I hear meeting for big project and suddenly I'm not upset 

  • LeviGrimes FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    I always like it when they talk about real world issues like the US's prison system. They may not be experts, they are still intelligent people with interesting opinions. While I do love the TV and movie talks, I would also love to see them talk about current events more.

  • Mr_Hyde010

    10 months ago

    I hope that videos that are too quit to be audible are a part of all future podcasts.

  • KidGonzo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold the worst™

    10 months ago

    Did.....James just sell me Game of Thrones?

  • Widomakesthee

    10 months ago

    30 mins of talking about pedophiles and then at the end trying to go back to said topic. Very fucking displeasing! 

  • GawsHawg

    10 months ago

    Lmao, that's pupina stewart, all her videos are absolutely ridiculous! (I'm pretty sure its for shits and giggles)

  • rhn94 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Finally fixed audio

  • Gobbles24 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    How dare you fall asleep during Gravity Falls Elyse

  • derekboywonder

    10 months ago

    I understand why Law-Dog doesn't like most TV, but I just do not understand why he is depriving himself of great entertainment. If a story is told well, and presented well, then what does it matter what medium it's in?

    • SirLarr FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      You're totally right! Good stories told well and presented well are very hard to find though.

    • derekboywonder

      10 months ago

      @SirLarr I agree that most TV isn't the grandest example of storytelling, but I think Adam and James are right. We are in a way living in a golden age of TV/streaming. Also I don't know you personally, but I think you might really like Westworld.

  • moop2000 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Hey Lawrence, can we possibly get the computer audio feed put into the stream? It is a bit rough to hear. Thanks! :)


  • 4563

    10 months ago

    I'm waiting for the RT/AH/FH casts to "discover" Netflix's Stranger Things.

  • AndrewHasHats FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Thanks for fixing the audio, guys. 

  • Dr_Wondertainment FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Boner-mobile

    10 months ago

    Elyse would that children's show be called "Candle Cove" by instance? 


    Also Lawrence if you like SCP you'll love The Holders Series. I can't imagine you don't know about it, but if you don't, it's right up your alley. 

  • derekboywonder

    10 months ago

    Everyone should watch Where To Invade Next. There's a great section of that movie that focuses on the American v. foreign prison system. Really interesting.

    • Dr_Wondertainment FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Boner-mobile

      10 months ago

      That would require everyone to actually take Michael Moore seriously, in 2016. 

  • captainfatbelly

    10 months ago

    Can you still call it dude soup if elyse is on it?

    • EnderofGames FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      She can be the soup, so there's that, which is nice. 

    • captainfatbelly

      10 months ago

      Elyse soup just sounds like a bad time XD

    • TheCommissar113 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      I'm a dude, you're a dude, she's a dude, we're all dudes.

    • sofa420 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      Just a cool guy with long hair.

  • FDay FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    The girl in the Vlog is actually really joking... Her channel emerged last week and the videos are amazingly bizarre

    • FDay FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      https://www.youtube.com/user/Robloxobbystar

      Her channel

    • machetesquad FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      Thanks for the link, she is a genius. The "Feminism ASMR" video is amazing.

  • 8bitdee FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold my views are your own

    10 months ago

    Damn. I know you have a schedule to stick to, but an late but proper edited video is better than an timely unwatchable one. 

    • SirLarr FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      10 months ago

      It will normally not be unwatchable. We had a total hardware failure about 20 minutes before we went to air which resulted in a massive scramble to fix everything.

  • LionRahl

    10 months ago

    It was a lovely podcast... when I could hear it  adam


    Nah but a reupload with better audio would be very much appreciated as it was funny but I'd rather be able to listen to it without having to crank the volume to 100 and do sound boost.

  • Chris742 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Chris

    10 months ago

    audio gets a little better at 38 min. mark still a really good podcast still


  • MoXy33

    10 months ago

    Audio is too quite. I can't hear anything. 

  • RaidenUzumaki FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold #Otaku4Life

    10 months ago

    why is there no video and just audio?

  • Hacknerds FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    The audio on these videos have been getting progressively worse and worse. :(

  • dedmunky FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    no audio at all

  • Saxpug FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Such doggo this episode

  • beedle246 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Don't be Cody Be Haggar

    10 months ago

    that 15 pounds video was genius 

  • mariners005 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    Bones you said you would fix this

  • playstation99

    10 months ago

    even with my headset plugged in and the volume at 100 i am still getting very quiet audio, should of looked over the video and mixed the sound, some people might think there is no audio at all

  • theastros17 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    10 months ago

    the audio is soo bad