SONY WINS E3? - Dude Soup Podcast #74

Dude Soup: SONY WINS E3? - Dude Soup Podcast #74

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4. Bash furiously searched his memory for anything that explained his current troubles. He hadn’t done anything out of the ordinary. He had kept himself aware of every detail. Bash never slipped up. As the tears began to well in his eyes, Bash spit out a muffled plea to let him go. If his new friends understood him, they didn’t let on.

“You’ve gone and stepped on the wrong god-damned toes this time, Mr. Bash.” the man continued, “It’s not that we mind what you do. I hear every man needs a pastime. But that last girl...,” slowly, the man pulled the gun away, “that last girl didn’t belong to you.”


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  • Stonewall57 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I'm genuinely confused as to what Bruce means when he says that story in a game is crap. He says that Overwatch is perfect because it doesn't have one. But it does, yes it may not even tell you any of the story, but it is there. And why is it so bad, I have listened to every podcast and I hear you guys complain that it is unnecessary and makes games worse but you never say why.


    And if you enjoy reading and watching movies and TV why do you not like story in games? I feel like saying playing a game only for the gameplay is like watching a movie only for the cinematography or CGI. You are allowed to do that and it is fine but saying that the story if pointless and should go away is taking away what the medium is.


    It is true that games did not start out having stories, but neither did movies today if you say movies should be made with no story you would be laughed at because that is what they are supposed to do now, it was just a natural evolution that they made. The same is true for games I feel, sure they did not start with story, and yes many still can be made without out one still, but to say that all story ruins games denies the evolution that they are going through.


    I admit that some stories are bad and can ruin a game but in those cases removing the story probably wouldn't have made it a better game just like removing the story from a bad movie doesn't make it a better movie.


    Sorry for the ramble, but I would really like it if you guys said specifically why you hate story in games.

  • KirkMiller91 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I think it was said after they did this podcast, but I read an interview with one of the creators of Horizon:Zero Dawn where they acknowledged that the dialogue trees won't mean anything. They won't affect any part of the story significantly and are only really there to add backstory and information.

  • Thillygooth FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I don't understand why everyone seems to be blowing their loads over this new Kojima game. If ANYONE else brought a vague, no gameplay, (IMO) pretty but crappy teaser trailer, people would be up in arms and angry about it (read; James complaining about not being able to bend over and grab items in Witcher 3).

    I understand the business move that is Kojima "rebounding" from the Silent Hills debacle and falling out with Konami. That's smart. He generated a shit load of hype with this teaser, but I can't help but see past it.


    I watch this trailer and see next gen/Unreal engine 4 tech demos. I see the dying hype and timeline of The Last Guardian/Kingdom Hearts 3. I see Watch Dogs gameplay shown 3 years in a row before we got a (fun) but disappointing overall experience. I see Shenmue 3. I understand that I could be completely wrong and Kojima could turn around and announce a holiday 2017 release date at next years E3, but I expect to be tired of seeing Death Stranding announced over and over again for the next 3-5 years.

  • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I've been havening a small issue with story heavy games like the Witcher lately. They are kind of long and there's usually not a way to disable tutorials without also playing on the highest difficulty. Which wouldn't be a problem if I was going through them on the 1st play though, but that becomes annoying if you enjoyed the story enough to want to play through it again, unlike with a movie I might want to rewatch.

  • musicisum405 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Huntress

    1 year ago

    I like Mica in gameplay videos, and I think she's a great host for the AH livestreams, but here I felt like she talked waaay too much without ever really making a coherent or original point. And when she did, it was in such a long-winded manner that I lost interest in what she was saying halfway through the third sentence.

    • Thillygooth FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Also contradicted herself fan-girling over Death Stranding then complaining about how she got burned by the Watch Dogs hype train.

  • ABonvini FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Liked the topics of conversation but man... after watching the lets watch of gavin (who is incredible at the trials games) play this game, and now watching them attempt to play it is brutal.

  • DMC23 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    if we see the Kojima game before holiday 2018 I'll be shocked and if it doesn't show up until 2020 or later I won't be surprised. Hard for me to get excited about that personally

  • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    So it's been weeks and I still don't understand the sex doll with Bruce's face taped to it.

  • kchakrak FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Raziel

    1 year ago

    The last few podcasts you guys have had the same narrative, the whole 'stories are bad and Overwatch is good' argument. What you don't seem to understand is that most gamers want a combination of good universe and solid gameplay. I don't like Overwatch because it's completely meaningless with no real end game or depth. When I finish work or have time I off I want to escape, and games like that don't allow me to do that. It's a shining example of what it is, but that's small section of the market. The idea that the Horizon Zero Dawn developers shouldn't have added dialog or crafting is narrow minded, for most people that will add to the depth of the universe people want to be a part of. It would be good to have a better balance of opinions on the podcast more often.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      And they said "I like when you can discover the story yourself," then shit on Destiny for that very reason. Sorry, I think Overwatch is just as good as Destiny. I CAN'T play it specifically because it doesn't have a story.


      Then people say they're sick of military shooters, but what do they keep buying? Call of Duty and Battlefield, while they shit on games that do something new like Mirror's Edge.


      Then Lawrence says basically if you have a good story and bad gameplay mechanics the game will be forgotten, while Final Fantasy 7 proves otherwise.


      Goes to show you even professional gamers don't know what they want.

  • AbstractSpaces FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I'm glad you guys seem to be becoming more accepting of others' opinions on what makes a good game. It's been frustrating hearing you say "like what you like" on one occasion and "games should be about mechanics first" on another. When Elyse first tried to talk about how she loves story based games she got kind of shot down by the others, but it's encouraging to see you acknowledge now that it's all just personal preference.

  • Danus FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    She talks too much.

  • BlinkyBe FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold OrdanJay

    1 year ago

    Jack is hurting inside after watching Elyse play trials.

  • nevod FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I'd buy a $100 bottle of orphan tears because of Lawrence's ad reads

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Little children near and far

      Don't know where your parents are

      Cry directly in this jar

      I will drink it at the bar


      Sip sippin' on orphan tears

      Sippin' on orphan tears

      Sip sip sippin on orphan tears

      sippin' sippin' sippin' on orphan tears.


      (No seriously, it's a real song)

  • willb FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Let me preface this by saying I love funhaus. I don't mean this comment to change anything, I would never want funhaus to change at all, but recently I've noticed that it seems like they are really jaded (as they said themselves), where I feel like very rarely do they actually like a game/movie and speak about how they are genuinely exited about it. I mean, I enjoy and appreciate different opinions, but I just wish I felt like I could connect with them over certain games. For example, I absolutely loved last of us. Got me right in the feels, and frankly I don't know how they can almost unanimously dislike the game. I don't know, just an observation.


    Love you guys

  • thedanmarin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    More Elyse on the podcast please.

  • CodedThreat FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold VicariousTool

    1 year ago

    I think this year we all won E3, all the conferences were good (excluding the PC show)
    .Sony did disappoint with the last part being Days Gone again, didn't really look that interesting, but much better than last year cause they didn't really have a person come out and talk for 30 minutes. Which brings up Bethesda, which was a great conference again, but that last 20 minutes of Dishonored 2 kinda dragged. Some great stuff on the way all around. Wish Sony talked about NEO but not a word was said. Project Scorpio could have had more info but good to see something about it. And to the people saying that "All they said was 6 flops", considering that it will be in a console that will probably cost $400, it's actually quite amazing considering how much a 1080 nVidia card cost. It is not really comparable. Good E3 all around!

    • DMC23 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      The only people who can ever win E3 are the gamers. I loathe people who claim any other winner. Every person who watches can have a favorite, but claiming a "winner" is just straight up idiocy if it's in reference to anyone other than us the gamers.

  • jclark2747 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Man I dont mind Mica too much, but on Off Topic and on this podcast she responds to everyone like they are talking to her specifically in the podcast. Getting sick of hearing 'mhmm' or 'right' at the end of everyones sentence. Just let them talk.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      That's just how some people talk. It should say something about her intelligence if she can respond to everything everyone says.


      But now I can't stop hearing it

  • Samuel_James

    1 year ago

    Sony had some awesome reveals but did we get an rlease dates? I know with E3 we don't usually see a lot of games for a while but it seems to me everyone is still getting hyped for stuff we might not see for a couple years.


    I still think Somy killed it game wise, but Microsoft did good with the new hardware and customizable controller announcements. It's gotta be tough playing catchup though

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Last Guardian - October 25

      Horizon - February 28


      (Those are the only ones I care about, but yes. Some release dates)

    • Samuel_James

      1 year ago

      So one this year and one next year? I guess that's more or less what we can come to expect from Sony/Xbox when they announce games. I enjoy the actual publisher pressers more because I feel like they provide multiple games with release dates the same year, and I may be interested in some.

  • tampacrow FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Furry Brows

    1 year ago

    I will never not complain when they bitch about the Last of Us. We get it, you don't like the masterpiece that it is, but Jesus Christ find something new to call boring. Maybe pick a game that is actually bad. Thank God James wasn't here to continue the "Last of Us sucks" conversation.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      People say they're sick of military shooters, then someone makes a game with guns where the purpose is not necessarily to shoot everything (The Last of Us, Mirror's Edge) and suddenly everyone flips.

  • CobaltAlpha

    1 year ago

    I'm actually becoming invested in the small drama that is the video description..

  • GreyGhost9036 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Angry Beaver

    1 year ago

    Kojima won E3 imo.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      He didn't show much, but the fact that he got that much done in 6 months after travelling the world says a lot about him

  • Phatnaru FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    no, Zelda: Breath of the Wild single-handedly won E3

  • Havocboy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I watched this on the mobile but I heard about all the Mica hate so I felt more compelled to give my opinion than I did before. I appreciated her insight along with everyone else, I do have certain opinions that conflict with hers the same way I do with Bruce and Lawrence about stories in games and what can make a good playing game into a great game. Although I am newer to Funhaus than others but Elise surprised me with her insightful and thought out opinions about games and e3. That is not to say I thought she was dumb, just never had a chance to listen to her present her opinion honestly.

  • mdatla FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold MDatla

    1 year ago

    God, Mica is a child among adults. All the points she brings up just makes me feel she's got a long way to go and learn about how technology works. At this point, she's just a fangirl that says what comes to her mind. I still respect her, just not in the same way I respect the likes of Lawrence, Bruce, Adam and James on FH and Geoff, Jack and Ryan on AH.

    Keep at it though Mica. You'll eventually get there



    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      To be fair to Mica, she might be one of the younger people at RT. She's at least fresh out of collage. That being said, she does still have some stuff to learn about the gaming industry, whereas most of FH have worked in or near it for around 10 years if I remember correctly.

  • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    In the Star Trek game, can you be a red shirt? Because that would actually be really fun. Survive as many away missions as you can.

  • angryngman FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I can't wait for geoff to play vr resident evil

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      I can't see him flipping out. More like silently jumping and just putting it down, utterly defeated.

  • Cassner FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Hail Hydra

    1 year ago

    Alright all I'm doing is watching people be terrible at Trails, if I wanted to see that I would play it myself

    • NSippy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Make sure your volume is on. You'll hear the discussion, which is the point of a podcast.

    • Cassner FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Hail Hydra

      1 year ago

      @NSippy WHAT? THEY'RE TALKING!? That changes everything. It totally takes my mind off the big ass screen showing Trails Blood Dragon right behind everyone.

      Seriously there is a reason why the podcast is set up like it normally is. Because even though they are play a game, the gameplay doesn't take up a third of the screen. And I wasn't paying attention to anything else but the gameplay. So I had to stop the video elyse only had 15 seconds left and couldnt get over an obstical

    • Steepled FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      You know, it is a podcast. They were created with the fucking idea of being audio only. If the gameplay is distracting, download the audio version, which is conveniently located on the bottom right side of the video, and listen to it.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      If you're not good at Trials yourself, don't complain about other people. Even Jack could barely play this one.

  • beedle246 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Don't be Cody Be Haggar

    1 year ago

    tbt: H Juan Z Juan