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More interesting discussion regarding gender relationship! Weird that it keeps coming up. It's like half the human race is female or something.

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  • DanielCasey43 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Cyborg= Genos, Sword guy= speed of sound sonic, and if you want to know where all the puss is, it's in my bedroom.

  • lukeglover80 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold RT is Great!

    1 year ago

    elyse should be on more content, but hey if she doesn't want to (cough peake too), it's all good. Fans shouldnt get upset just because she doesn't want to. lol From the start it's been clear they arent purposely not putting her in content and they discuss it on shows too! Sheesh. :P

  • lukeglover80 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold RT is Great!

    1 year ago

    It's great how Funhaus will acknowledge when they're wrong and will go out of their way to answer questions, comments, etc. from the fans. You guys are awesome.

  • lukeglover80 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold RT is Great!

    1 year ago

    Joel and Bruce arguing in the background is the best. :P I love this show. ;)


    I agree with bruce. If you like it and its a dude/dude like thing doing it, you are 100% gay or bi (as joel said). People are into some kinky/f'd up shit too...


    lol Robo-sexuals.

  • lukeglover80 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold RT is Great!

    1 year ago

    One Punch Man is everywhere now!

  • vanweapon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold PCMR

    1 year ago

    I want those shoes

  • fh_eve FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I do agree with a lot of the comments from people really feeling like they need to see women's interests being represented in FH videos, but it doesn't necessarily have to fall onto Elyse's shoulders to be involved with every video in which women are discussed. I feel like people have to acknowledge that scheduling conflicts can't be avoided sometimes and that the absence of someone in a video doesn't always mean they weren't wanted in the first place.

  • fh_eve FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I really hope Elyse does know that the community loves her and wants to see her in videos more because she seemed really apprehensive at Lawrence telling her so. I 100% agree with him because I've pretty much only seen people talking about how much they're enjoying all the content she's involved with.

  • Procrastinat FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Procastinat....

    1 year ago

    Bi-cente-anial man. Elyse your a genius.

  • Trevmann13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I really want to know what that comment about James' eyes meant. I have no idea, cause I get lost in those baby blues whenever it cuts to his cam.

  • Norspark The Derpy Guy

    1 year ago

    Elyse is the onions that add more flavor to the bowl of the Dude Soup.


    You are doing great, lady.

  • RimmyTom FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold RimmyTim

    1 year ago

    A show with only women wouldn't get complaints about gender diversity. A show with only black people wouldn't get complaints about racial diversity. It is important to have equality, but you shouldn't guilt trip people into mixing up shows for the sake of diversity, and their is nothing wrong with white men. Funhaus was good when it was only guys, and funhaus is good with female members. I don't get why people always make such a big deal about it.

    Elyse is a great addition to the team, and she's clearly a good fit. I think it would be easy to tell if she was just a token female. You do you. Funhaus 4 lyf.

    • Twiggyboy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Funny is funny, once you start trying to fill a check list of diversity instead of getting the people best suited for the role, it stops being funny. Elyse is a good fit because she's funny, not becasue shes a woman.

    • SpleeSpree FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold I Got Dem Braindawgs

      1 year ago

      Well said, both of you. Funhaus is doing a hell of lot better job than most people who make an explicit goal to be "progressive". This is because Funhaus actually DOES seem to see people as equals instead of getting mired in identity politics and trying to fight racism with racism, sexism with sexism, etc., which is what all too many people do now.


      I mean shit, here's a show where it was just a bunch of white guys talking about and playing games. Then when a woman was brought on (that doesn't even include other, behind the scenes employees), nothing really changed in terms of content, style of humor, etc. Not even any feeling of forced agendas or anything. And, at least from what I've seen, no one in the audience complained.


      Basically, Funhaus works. People should stop trying to fix something (that isn't broken anyway) with hypothetical solutions that never seem to work in practice. Just let them do their thing. If they change in a way that you don't like, stop watching. If enough people don't like it, they'll get that message through loss in views, and they'll deal with it.


      tl;dr

      I feel like some "progressives" are upset that a woman was introduced on this guy dominated show, succeeded without guys being oppressive, and they (the "progressive" viewers) weren't involved in that. The SJWs weren't needed, and I think that bothers them. But they should be happy. Doesn't that mean that things are working out the way they always wanted it?

  • AlCappachino

    1 year ago

    Based Elyse is based, keep beatin down the sjw cucks in the community :D

    • mynameistheodb FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Grow up.

  • AlCappachino

    1 year ago

    Just wants to enjoy these guys makes jokes and answer decent questions, gets some bs sjw shit ffs

    • fullofwish FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold T

      1 year ago

      People who use "sjw" unironically as an insult towards anyone who speaks out about fucked up bullshit are just about as good as those who unironically use "feminazi", "white knight", "the gay agenda" and identify as "men's rights activists". Trying to shut people up about valid issues says more about yourself as a person than the people you're trying to silence.


      Anyway, I'm more of a Social Justice Rogue myself.

  • nicolegend FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold dangereqsue

    1 year ago

    every time elyse gets flustered from a compliment an angel gets its wings

  • Alex_Berry FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Hey Elyse, you're entertaining and funny. Accept it! But really, you're doing fine. Don't sweat it.

  • breadstickcoma FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Tried scrolling down to see more art, I hate myself.

  • Jdwallace FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Shout out to Mabinogi.

  • WildLemon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    It usually takes me a while to start liking new members of any "internet group". Also, sometimes I feel like women who work in male dominated environments, try too hard to be funny or "just one of the guys". That said, I LOVED Elyse from the start! She is smart, beautiful and effortlessly funny. I get excited every time she is in a video. <3

  • ssjpaddy1 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    i taught Lawrence said Bruce goes into red bruce mode and then he plays rambo six

  • noelmurray15 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    why do you guys get nra ads

    • SpleeSpree FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold I Got Dem Braindawgs

      1 year ago

      Why not?

  • PantlessThunderbird FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Cyclopath

    1 year ago

    |aqw ````

  • GeeeReg FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Now with 20% less fat!

    1 year ago

    Not a particularly insightful or constructive comment on my part, but I just want to add my voice to the crowd; I think that Elyse is an awesome addition to Funhaus. We love you Elyse, you've been one of, if not the funniest people in a video whenever you appear on camera. I would personally love to see you in a future Funhaus short.

  • fullofwish FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold T

    1 year ago

    Meritocracy is ideal, unfortunately we live in a world that isn't. Until people who have been systematically disempowered in many/all areas in society actually have satisfactory representation and empowerment, conversations about these things need to continue, and efforts to include marginalized people needs to continue. "Happenstance isn't fair" is a cop-out. Systematic oppression is not "happenstance", it was created purposefully and continues purposefully because of those who benefit from it continuing it. Sorry, but a bunch of white people (mostly men, and straight) not seeing the necessity to continue to strive for equity in representation is nothing new. The biased system of society (white-heterosexual privilege) is built in their favour.


    As a (non-straight) white woman, I have experienced sexism and misrepresentation, but not racism, so the ways I have experienced those disempowerments are different than the ways a woman of colour would. Intersectional disempowerment is why no one woman can be the voice of all women of all races, sexualities, and classes. But we don't want to ask for one woman to be, we want a wide spectrum of voices. While there is a noticeable lack of women's voices in general in many areas, including gaming, there is an even greater absence of, for example, black women. "You can't be what you can't see", and all that. As Elyse says, women want the opportunity to talk about the same things. However, the problem is where women's voices aren't actually valued unless they can "prove their legitimacy" to talk about such things, and even then the focus often is on "wow, what's it like to be an underdog in this community?" rather than what they might have to say in general in that community. It's tricky because you can't actually divorce women's particular difficulties to be valued as legitimate voices and their actual voices.


    TL;DR While saying "the people who are best for the job will get the job" is great in concept, imagine the potential of those people who could be great but are discouraged from trying because they do not see valid opportunities and existing representations of themselves. What we see in media is a mirror of what society values, so we should keep trying to change that into an actual ideal.

    • musicisum405 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Huntress

      1 year ago

      Sorry if this is waayy too long... I appreciate your own values, but I couldn't help but add my two cents... or perhaps 200 cents.

      I understand what you are saying. Equal representation is absolutely vital. And there is much of the world that systematically disempowers certain groups, be it by gender or racial bounds. Oppression exists especially as a subconscious undercurrent of media in general. I do feel, however, that it is essential that the end goal for which we strive should be equality. It is counterproductive to assume that workplace equity is merely a product of attendance. For simplicity's sake, let's confine the argument to the question of gender. Theoretically, if a group were to hire a few women simply for the sake of hiring women, the problem isn't solved. The intentions for those hires may be benevolent, but the mentality remains that said women were hired solely on the basis of their gender... which is a partial definition of workplace sexism. Additionally, pushing for the acquisition of a greater female presence with no regard for qualifications is another inadvertent disservice. You'd be essentially adding female members to meet a quota, not to improve your content or production quality. It is all well and good to desire a greater feminine influence in the scope of gaming and entertainment media, but the idea of true equality advocates identical odds of employment for those with similar experience or drive. We know Funhaus to be a progressive group, at least much more so than others in the same industry, but we cannot expect Funhaus to make hires to fill a quota. They hire those with the proper experience, personality, and motivation. Hence why women, as well as men, must "prove their legitimacy" to talk about such things. To show preference for one potential employee over another because they feel pressured to up their equality stats would be an injustice to the potential employee with a more complete understanding of the gaming/media world. Even if the latter is a straight white male. Because equality means that an individual's gender, race, sexual alignment, and favorite color are independent of the opportunities they are given.

      I understand the point that you make about how some may feel discouraged from putting themselves out there because of the lack of diversity that is visible to them. It certainly is an issue, and I don't have a good answer for you, besides that an individual should merit themselves based off of their intellectual (or job-appropriate) assets rather than their physical properties, the same as employers should do. But if these individuals will only be bolstered by the sight of other women in the same environment, then something else needs to change. Not the appearance of Funhaus or other groups, not the tally-count of women and minorities in these groups, but the mentality of the world as a whole, including that of the suppressed individuals in question.


      TL;DR: As a woman myself, all I can say is this: the only way true equity can be achieved is by a mutual agreement between employer and employee that physical and cultural properties must remain independent of and separate from the opportunities, either for hiring or being hired, being presented to them. I think that Funhaus is the last group that we should be criticizing for archaic mentalities: they take those that come to them with legitimate background.

    • SpleeSpree FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold I Got Dem Braindawgs

      1 year ago

      Here's the problem, Wish: none of what you claim about how the world "really works" can be proven. It's all claims. And we're supposed to accept it without any evidence.


      When you tell someone who is a racial minority, for example, that they NEED a leg up, you deny them agency. You're telling them: "you can't succeed on your own. You NEED me. I know this, because you are black, and all black people have the same experience".


      Basically, I think you are inadvertently being incredibly racist.


      And honestly, I would like for someone to tell me where I can pick up my privilege already. Everyone tells me I have it, and that I'm oppressing people, but they will never tell me how. You have to give us something to go on. Otherwise, I have no more reason to believe you than I do some white-supremacist. If you really think there is a massive world-wide conspiracy against you, and you want our help, we're going to need specifics.

    • fullofwish FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold T

      1 year ago

      Hi musicsum/Huntress, thanks for your thoughtful and long reply! Here's my own longer reply.


      "Theoretically, if a group were to hire a few women simply for the sake of hiring women, the problem isn't solved. The intentions for those hires may be benevolent, but the mentality remains that said women were hired solely on the basis of their gender... which is a partial definition of workplace sexism. Additionally, pushing for the acquisition of a greater female presence with no regard for qualifications is another inadvertent disservice. You'd be essentially adding female members to meet a quota, not to improve your content or production quality. "


      I find it interesting that with this topic so many people like to reduce the argument to extremes, "attendance and tally-count" vs. "people who are qualified" - I don't think they need to be mutually exclusive, and although I never specified, I'd hope that it was implied that gender and race minorities can be just as qualified as any other. The issue I was trying to get across was that despite their equal abilities, the playing field is absolutely not equal, and they have to work much harder to achieve the same things that privilege grants others with the same abilities. When you see lack of representation of women, do you think it's because they're less qualified?


      "Because equality means that an individual's gender, race, sexual alignment, and favorite color are independent of the opportunities they are given."


      Yes, that is the definition of equality, I'm not disputing it. I'm disputing that we live in a world where equality has actually been achieved, we're certainly not there yet. Also, equity is giving those who do not have equal footing based on the oppressiveness of society the tools to fill the gap. An example being "affirmative action", particularly to address both the conscious and subconscious discrimination that exists. It was intended to give equally qualified but unequally privileged folks the same opportunities, that doesn't mean it's been always implemented successfully, but I wonder what would be a better solution?


      "But if these individuals will only be bolstered by the sight of other women in the same environment, then something else needs to change. Not the appearance of Funhaus or other groups, not the tally-count of women and minorities in these groups, but the mentality of the world as a whole, including that of the suppressed individuals in question."


      But it's certainly a start. Until the rest of society gets its "progressive" act together through the elusive something else that changes the world's collective mentality, some little microcosms of society (be it content creators like Funhaus and hopefully others) can lead the charge.


      "I think that Funhaus is the last group that we should be criticizing for archaic mentalities: they take those that come to them with legitimate background."


      I actually love Funhaus, I'm a feminist and I'd bet from what I know of them and what they say regularly, that they would all self-identify as feminists as well. They joke about the messed up shit in this world, and I share their humour. That's not to say that when they're not satirizing and seriously discuss a topic that I feel familiar with, I can't share my own critical thoughts. Progressive people can still have problematic views, intended or not. I've actually been studying this subject for 2 years now, and I don't fault them for not knowing what I've come to know through studying. I actually had many of the same (what I would consider pretty naïve and overly simple) views before, but now I think I know better so I should do better, and say something when I see them repeated. I know that the members of Funhaus don’t mean to dismiss complex issues of equality, they just haven’t looked into them that deeply to know how frustratingly complex they are. Most people do the same until they bother educating themselves, I’m a long way to go in learning as well, there’s a lot of messed up brain washing this world has done to us all.

    • fullofwish FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold T

      1 year ago

      SpleeSpree, I considered whether or not to respond to you, since it seems like you just want to fling inflammatory accusations to get a reaction. But I will, because maybe we can have a constructive conversation that clarifies some things.


      “none of what you claim about how the world "really works" can be proven. It's all claims. And we're supposed to accept it without any evidence.”


      There is plenty of research that has been done for the better part of a century that should suffice as “evidence” if you want to bother to look into any of it. All it takes is to just start to look.


      “When you tell someone who is a racial minority, for example, that they NEED a leg up, you deny them agency. You're telling them: "you can't succeed on your own. You NEED me. I know this, because you are black, and all black people have the same experience".


      Basically, I think you are inadvertently being incredibly racist.”


      Here’s the thing, not I nor any other feminist NEEDS to tell someone who is a racial minority that they NEED “a leg up”. What they really need are allies – people whose minds and actions have changed to help facilitate equality in this world. They don’t need to be told, guess what, they know – because the majority of power held in our society is held by men, and white men. And guess what white men have been great at creating? Power structures that keep them in power, using oppression. You won’t push your words on me, saying “all black people have the same experience” is bullshit essentialism, they experience many different things, but in North America particularly you can’t deny that oppression is one of them. Oppression is a real thing that still exists for many people, and it is incredibly difficult to overcome for disempowered people alone, the structures need to change. It’s not a simple matter of disempowered people using their agency to work within a fucked up, unchanging structure.


      These views were imparted on me by a wonderful professor with a doctorate in Women’s Studies and Feminist Research, who happens to be black. So if you maintain your argument, I guess you consider her incredibly racist too.


      “And honestly, I would like for someone to tell me where I can pick up my privilege already. Everyone tells me I have it, and that I'm oppressing people, but they will never tell me how. You have to give us something to go on. Otherwise, I have no more reason to believe you than I do some white-supremacist. If you really think there is a massive world-wide conspiracy against you, and you want our help, we're going to need specifics.”


      White privilege is a real thing. White people have the privilege of not experiencing racism and all the heinousness that goes with that, it’s a fact, plain and simple. You don’t view that as a privilege? I know, it sits uncomfortably with me as well, I don’t like to acknowledge that it’s something I have, because I want to see myself as a good human being and it seems like it’s something to be ashamed of. You were born with it, so you shouldn’t be ashamed, despite the historic way it was acquired being shameful. It doesn’t mean you have to literally oppress people first-hand, but it does mean that you can be complacent in an oppressive system you benefit from. What matters is what you do with that privilege, and being a positive ally is a good way to use it. (Male privilege is a real thing too, obviously, and it can be used to ally women's interests.)

  • christian1997wright FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I like you Elyse.

  • Bintley FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold FunnerHAUS

    1 year ago

    Elyse is definitely my favourite member of funhaus, her input is always hilarious and its refreshing to see her in these videos as it seems to make the comedy aspect of them flow better! top job guys and i hope to see elyse in more videos in the future!

  • TeamCanada Qrow's shittier niece

    1 year ago

    I love Elyse and I love her in the content. I've personally experienced gender biases and if you dont mind, I'll like to speak about my views on women in male dominated jobs. My father works in construction and when I was young I asked him why there weren't many girls at this work and he told me this "I hire who ever is most qualified for the job, I dont want to hire someone because they are a woman the same I way I dont want to not hire someone because they are a woman". As a female that wants to go into a "male" industry I feel the same way my father does. I dont want to put into a job to meet some quota, if you want women to feel empowered let them work for their jobs like men do. I want to know I'm smart enough and driven enough to do a good job and work well not just there so they dont seem sexist. I love Elyse in the content and people dont seem to understand that you have to look passed her gender. She wasn't hired because they needed a female to stop comments or for some tax break or something. She was hired because she is funny and smart. When she is content she is there because she brings stuff to it not because they feel bad or that its a sausage fest. I personally love the content and Elyse's comedy style meshes very well with the rest of the group but still bring something new. No complaints, keep it up.
    Sorry for the essay long comment and sorry for the inevitable spelling mistakes.
    Much love,
    Megan, future computer scientist
    Edit: Holy fuck I cant believe they read and laughed at Elyse page. I added the lines about Benson and admitting to having a vagina like 2 days ago.

  • Thawds FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Discord Bois

    1 year ago

    Elyse is actually one of the best "on the spot" comidians of the Funhaus members, she's awesome on camera!

  • nucleartogekiss

    1 year ago

    we have yet to see any type of physical connection between James and Elyse, like not even a hug

    • SpleeSpree FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold I Got Dem Braindawgs

      1 year ago

      You know, I let my loved ones hug me if they want. But I don't feel any need to film it. Maybe they're the same way.