LOGAN REVIEW - Movie Podcast

Filmhaus Podcast: LOGAN REVIEW - Movie Podcast

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Today, the fellas and Elyse tackle this neat little indie flick called Logan. It's some kind of heartwarming journey into the heart of the American soul or the power of love or something. I don't know. I never heard of it.


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  • JulianFawkes FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Watched it two times already. Somehow I cannot really place any of the two instances that James and Elyse talk about. Can someone catch me up? 

  • Ptearitupodactyl FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    From my recollection Xavier killed 17 of the X-men when he had a seizure and had forgotten about it until close to when he died but I could be wrong

  • JakeUnderwoo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Did they ever outwardly say that the adamantium was killing him in the movie? I remember Charles telling Wolvie that he was killing himself or something along those lines. Throughout the whole film I thought he was poisoning himself with alcohol. That's why he told the doctor near the end of the film that he knew what was poisoning him.

    • holingrop

      1 month ago

      Hes god damn Wolverine. Alcohol doesn't even make him drunk let alone give him alcohol poisoning. Also they do outwardly say that adamantium was poisoning him, cant remember exactly when but they definitely say it 

    • TheFettONE FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Logan did mention it, right at the end.

  • Krossaren92 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    The reason he is only now being affected by the adamantium, isnt that cuz he lost most of his regenerative powers in the last Wolverine movie? Asian dude stole it. 

    Ps. sorry for bad english, im a swede..

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Not really. Wolverine is constantly suffering adamanium poisoning. In the comics it actually slows his healing factor down a bit because it's always repairing the damage. In the context of the movie it's basically burned out the healing factor, which is why he has scars now.

  • gangly369 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Great podcast, love that everyone was here this time to talk about the movie. Also, agree with James that I'm concerned that movie producers are just going to start throwing the R-rated tag on every movie now because of the success of Deadpool and Logan, and not because the movie actually deserves to be R-rated and they want to explore the characters/stories in a different (more mature) way

  • CrowDaddy1 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I stopped watching Marvel movies several years ago

  • lootsorrow FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I give this movie X23 out of 10

  • JarrydBracke FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    The x-men were always a metaphor for bigotry, literally since the inception. 

  • orkus FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    So, this is what it feels like.

  • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

    1 month ago

    good filmhaus bubs, gotta say tho i think you all down played the virus, the fact they linked that its in the new special gmo corn that "last reg farmer" guy said tastes like shit, the ominous sentinel replacements with the giant fucking robot corn harvesters shot, the shots of kid/kids are all now eating that food now too. to me that was the real villain of the film, it probably was what lead to prof x's illness that cause the death of all those students (i don't think he killed all mutants, the news report only said 600 at the school i think, if all other mutants dropped dead around the world i think the world would be able put that link together). and fact that Logan can't fight off the adamantium poisoning because his body is also probably working overtime fighting off every x virus trying to attack his mutant cells/dna. and i didn't think this guy's take on the yellow suit wasn't so bad.. looks like maybe some sort of iron man helped him make it... hmmm *sips beer*qa1jB5Fh.jpg

  • Lorhechapol FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Haven't seen the movie yet - I'm interested in seeing a mute character. The ability to act a mute character would be exceptional acting. I look forward to seeing it. 

    • MrClarko FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      The character isn't mute, it's just another generic comic book movie, the only difference being that the characters say "fuck" once in a while. 

  • ilati FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold ilati

    1 month ago

    THANK YOU ADAM!


    THAT QUESTION IS BUGGING ME!!!


    about the metal skeleton in X23, even if its hands and feet only. Her hands and feet are going to grow and the metal wont! 



    • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

      1 month ago

      don't worry the virus she's been eating since the escape (sugary energy drink, pringles etc etc) will prob kill her before her growing body rejects the claws. it's a sad fucking movie, and everyone glosses over the virus parts. 

  • Hellotardis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Russell Richardson

    1 month ago

    SPOILERS!!!


    Adamantium poisoning probably wouldn't be an issue with X-23. Wolverines' healing factor has been taxed for 60 plus years by Adamantium that covered every bone in his body. 


    X-23 is very young (which equals more powerful healing factor) and she has far less Adamantium to be a real issue. Wolverine has to deal with 100% heavy metal poisoning at all times. This poisoning would more than likely have greater effect every time his healing was taxed by other injuries. This would at times create a multiplying effect on the efficacy of his mutant ability to heal, where as she will only ever have to deal with like 5% of the same problem. 


    So in my humble and nerdy opinion, the dynamic of her growth and or Suffering via Adamantium, seems like a trivial point especially for the plot of this film.


    Also, despite the vagueness of "What Charles did" in the incident that was hinted at, Mangold has stated in interviews that it was definitely Charles losing control that killed a large number of mutants in or around the X-mansion. That's what Charles was emotionally admitting to before his unfortunate encounter with X-24.  Like james said, this accounted for part of the mutants dying off, but not all.


    Early on in the film Charles asked Logan "what did you do?! Why are we here?!". The sad truth of that scene is that Logan and Caliban had been trying to shelter Xavier from remembering the horrible truth of what he did. Logans frustration and attitude with Charles had been colored by years of protecting him from the awful reality of what he had done.


    And That shit kicked my heart right in the nesmonds. This podcast was excellent btw. Love you guys.

    • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

      1 month ago

      funny the only jobs in this altered timeline sentinels could get is truck driving and virus corn harvesting.

  • PieBoy94 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Loved the movie but while I understood why he had to die, they kinda pull this story out of their asses, because (and please correct me if I'm wrong) in the Old Man Logan comic Logan doesnt die and Antimantium poisoning does not exist, I get that it's really one of the only ways to kill him, but I thought it was kind of a cheap ploy


    I too was disappointed that Liev Schreiber wasnt in the movie, I was waiting for him to show up at the end and he was going to unbury Logan and say that it "ain't over yet"....but I'm not too upset about it


    I love Patrick Stewart, I loved him and Hugh's Banter the in the beginning, and his death was really sad but relieving at the same time because he was in so much pain and it's a nice feeling to know he doesnt feel that way anymore 


    I dont know how much CGI went into it but seeing Hugh as X-24 (his identical clone) made me think Hugh could still do movies, and I know the only way he said he would come back is if Logan was in the MCU, and I gotta think they are trying to make that happen



    in the end though, amazing film

    • MrSalmon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      To be fair, Old Man Logan's storyline was batshit insane. It had a family of cannibal Hillbilly Hulks that was a result of incest between the original Hulk and She-Hulk, and the entire nation was run by supervillains. If I recall correctly, Logan lived in "Hulkland" in the actual story which was pretty ridiculous. It's impossible to make a direct adaption of Old Man Logan, so I'm glad the only thing they took out of it was the death of the X-Men and Logan finally aging. So I think the director was right in not following the storyline of the original comic at all, so I think the death of Logan was great, and was done perfectly in the film. 


      Also in regards to the adamantium poisoning, this is actually canon in the X-Men comics. His healing factor keeps him from dying from the poison, which is similar to Deadpool's cancer and his healing factor. Wolverine also ages in the comics, but a lot slower compared to normal humans and other mutants, so it would make sense for his healing factor to slow down as he ages, so him slowly dying from adamantium poisoning does makes sense, and I don't think the film needed to fully explain that since the movie does a great job in keeping things vague so that it is up to interpretation for many viewers.


      Still, Loved this movie. Probably my third favorite superhero movie, behind the dark knight and spiderman 2 (he's my favorite superhero)

  • RaidenUzumaki FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold #Otaku4Life

    1 month ago

    Info on X-23


    Adam, X-23 in both the comics and the film only has Adamantium on her claws. Her skeleton is just bone. This makes her healing factor better than Wolverine's and she can keep growing. Wolverine ultimately is more powerful with the adamantium skeleton than without, but it is poisining him which means his healing factor is constantly keeping him from dying, that is why he ages into an old man. He was alive for like 200 years and he basically stopped aging once he reached maturity, The adamantium took perhaps centuries off his life. Laura does not have this problem. Only her claws are covered. So, she actually can heal better than him but she is more vulnerable to serious injury like getting limbs cut off or being cut in half. But her superior healing factor compensates. 

    • Tsyr119A FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      That isn't why he started aging. In Old Man Logan, after having killed the X-Men, and basically given up on life, the stress and depression of a lifetime of suffering, and the guilt over having murdered his friends, finally overcame him. He gave up on being a superhero, but more importantly, he swore to never kill again. Killing is a thing that's very important to Wolvie. After all, he's the best at what he does, and what he does isn't very nice. Over the course of the arc, he learns to forgive himself, and redons the mantle of superhero, and warrior. He begins killing in earnest once more, and his healing factor bounces back as a result. 


      The scope of Wolverine's healing factor in every other movie, and the comics, is already affected by adamantium poisoning, and has no affect other than to hinder how fast he should be capable of healing. Bone Claw Wolverine, for example, heals at a much greater rate. But it isn't actually killing him. His body has attained a sort of homeostasis where, despite being constantly poisoned, his healing factor at (random number) 75% is still perfectly capable of healing any and all wounds and granting him what is effectively immortality. And then, of course, he's healed from a single cell before, again, despite adamantium poisoning. 

    • RaidenUzumaki FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold #Otaku4Life

      1 month ago

      Im not talking about Old Man Logan at all here. The only thing I was referencing comics is that X-23 only has Adamantium on her claws in the comics as well as this movie.


      Everything else i said is based on Wolverine in the X-Men films. He literally says its killing him. That is concrete. When he takes the drug he loses some grayness and his healing bounces back briefly. But at the end his grayness comes back. 


      They had to do this to explain why he was old here while still having Charles kill the Mutants at the mansion. Logan clearly showed in the first scene that he would still kill if he needed to. 


      You also literally said what I said, X-23 heals better because she is unhindered by the Adamantium skeleton.


      This film is not a comic book, it does not have to follow the explanations in the comics. The only reason I included it was to inform Adam that her only having Adamantium claws is a consistent character trait. 

  • LukeL21 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Great podcast!


    I believe the adamantium poisoning is something that was explored in the comics in the past.  I think it may have come up twice.

  • GavinElwes FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    the best show evaaaar

  • IpBlood FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold David

    1 month ago

    I love this review of "The last of Us" what a great film

  • BenSchuetz FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Although this was the best Wolverine movie by far I have to disagree with the general consensus that it was a great movie. The gratuitous misuse of violence to drive the plot was unnecessary to the stories overall tone and felt like a cheap addition to compete with Deadpool, a film which actually needed it. Professor Xavier while interesting and necessary to the plot, overstayed his welcome and his arc should have ended before the half way point in the film. I would have liked to see Logan and his daughter travelling across the country in a more "The Last of us" sort of way showing us what the world is now like post mutants and the lingering fears of the mutants that remain. Finally the nail in the coffin that absolutely wasted this films potential was the inclusion of a clone Logan which utterly destroyed the down to earth feel of the film and made the real Logan's death feel cheap. To me what they were clearly building towards was a far more satisfying death in which his body (after fighting the soldiers and saving the kids) finally succumbs to metal poisoning and he dies because of his failing healing factor. I also get that the symbolism of Wolverine fighting his empty shell and young rage filled past but it was so out of place and frankly ridiculous in a film which seemed to be moving away from the stupidity and campiness of the previous Wolverine films. I hope the studio continues to take x-men in this direction but I hope they learn the difference between meaningful violence and lazy violent plot devices that serve only to show us that yes he does have sharp metal claws and yes these soldiers are useless meat-bags for him to demonstrate this. Again. And again. And again. I give this film 6.5/10 Clogans(Clone Logans)

    • Hellotardis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Russell Richardson

      1 month ago

      If I may with all due respect offer a counterpoint; I don't believe any of the violence was gratuitous. It was amplified certainly, but I felt it was necessary in the context of this film. The point never seemed to me to glorify violence, rather it seemed to illustrate the very violence of this mans life. This character has always harbored the pain and ramifications from his violent nature. That is and has always been a major tenant in Logans life and character. 


      The only disconnect has been that these films up until now have not been able to express the true gravity and finality of what it means for Wolverine to fight the way he does. They've had to keep to specific ratings and thus, the level of violence on display might very well seem disjointed from previous films. 


      But in truth, every person he has ever slashed with his claws would have met the exact same brutally grisly fate as those in this film. They were never able to show it, but when you do battle with 6 razor sharp blades, the outcome was never going to be pretty.


      This is just the first time we were allowed to see the truth of what it means for Logan to be the Best there is at what he does. Seeing it on display only served to legitimize how weary and broken he is by having to deal with what he sees as his true nature. It's why he has trouble ever seeing himself as a hero, because his life has been splattered with the blood of his enemies and sadly, of the people he cares about. 


      Just my humble opinion, I could be wrong.

  • Wolfman9889 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    You guys made some great points, and one thing I love about this Podcast compared to Enjoy the Show is that Tyler Coe was referencing a ton of old western movies to reflect why this movie was good, meanwhile Adam compares the relationship to a 'classic' like waterworld. It's good to have both, and I enjoy the not pretentious attitude you guys take towards reviewing and discussing movies.

  • Mike_Kruk FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    This Filmhaus brought me to tears near the last part; just thinking of Prof. X and how he lost control in Logan and just Logan the film. Thank you all, keep this going!

  • Paleyeti FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Thank god you guys skipped the whitewashing bullshit. Scarlet Johansson as Motoko isn't whitewashing. The character was never specifically Asian. Anyone who thinks that it is whitewashing should go and watch the original movie and tell me where they made the racial background very clear. 

    Also, what you guys said about Logan is spot on. This movie hit me right in the feels as someone who grew up watching X-men movies. The ending actually made me tear up a bit. It was such a great "sendoff" for Jackman's version of Wolverine. Absolutely loved it. 

    • PieBoy94 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Remember when everyone freaked out about Matt Damon "whitewashing" in The Wall


      clearly they explained that he's from Europe and is there to help protect the wall (never saw the movie btw, just the info I got about it), but there are always people who will get butthurt about whitewashing

  • muffinsanity FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    i dont think the "adamantium poisoning" plotline was easy or cheap at all. theres a great deal of symbolic power in the idea that logan was essentially immortal by his own nature and then the crule irony that the thing they did to enhance him is the source of his mortality. additionally, the idea that the real responsibilty that wolverine had wasnt to live forever but to live as long as he needed to, they touch on that second one a lot more heavily in some of the comics.

  • Adelphos FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Adelphos

    1 month ago

    I feel like I must have missed something with Logan. Everyone is raving about it but i just left disappointed and with many questions i felt were unanswered by the film.


    Why was the imaginary boundary that is the separation between the US and Canada a point of safety for the kids? Mr Claw hand had no trouble going to Mexico, why not Canada? (i understand their agency was pretty much wiped out before they hit that point, but it was being treated as an area untouchable by the bad guys)

    How is it that seemingly every mutant, including all the ones not at Xaviers institute die? and how did that event not also kill the frail old bald guy and Caliban who isn't even allowed into the sun.


    Why were the big-bad team fixated on finding Laura? and not the other 15 kids that managed to cross the country seemingly unscathed.


    That's just a few, maybe i just need dumb movies that spoon feed me all the plot details. I'll try re-watch it one day and see if i missed things. It just seemed like a lot of the context of the film were just fleeting comments.

    • connorhawke FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      1. There was a whole colony in dedicated to protecting mutants, thats why it was safe for the kids, not because of boarders.

      2. The scientist explained it. In the process of wanting to be able to control how mutants are born, he accidentally ended up suppressing the gene all together. No new mutants were born. After Westchester, the remaining mutants were either killed or forced into hiding. 

      3. Laura was the most important mutant they created. She was a stepping stone to X24. She was also the one they had a lead on. The other kids werent being taken care of by a former employee. They tracked her to the location of the remaining kids. 

  • kuvk FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I didn't really like it that much. I appreciate that it was R rated and the action was alright. But the dialogue was pretty exposition-heavy and bland, the villains were corny, and some of the continuity errors were so bad that it was actually funny. They reveal how the movie is going to end fairly early on and there's plenty of bullshit throughout but i guess it was entertaining enough. 

    I'd give it a 6/10 so it's still one of the better superhero movies out there.

  • Evanmicah FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    There are some things that are better felt than said, and somehow funhaus always knows how to put those feelings in to words. I love filmhaus

  • Noofus FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    finally, a movie podcast that I won't have to skip regretfully