WHY IS HOLLYWOOD RACIST? - Movie Podcast

Filmhaus Podcast: WHY IS HOLLYWOOD RACIST? - Movie Podcast

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Friend of the show and actual real-life minority Rahul Kohli drops by to talk about Ghost in the Shell, white-washing in Hollywood, and his hopeful vision for the future of diversity in entertainment. Also, Elyse says some stuff about women or whatever.


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  • vongunther FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Section 9 in the movie looks way more Asian in the film than they do in the Anime. If anything, they yellow washed the team.

  • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Well, no, Aladdin IS an arabian story, but it takes place in China. It's not a Chinese story, per se.

  • Phoenix512 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    The whitewashing argument has jumped the shark when people started to complain about Iron Fist should be Asian not white even though he was always a white guy. Also making him Asian would make Iron Fist a stereotype of Asians. Iron Fist knows kung fu and Asians typically use kung fu which is a common Asian stereotype.


    About Ghost in the Shell, the Major is a full cyborg. She could have any body type including being male. Her being Asian doesn't define her who she is. Someone tried to convince me that her being Asian is essential to her character which it isn't as she can have the same identity issues as a white woman.


    I feel like whitewashing in Ghost in the Shell's case is being used as the quickest excuse to hate the movie than the typical reason that it isn't like the original. I always feel if US adaptations of anime will always have resistance from the hardcore crowd since it will never be like the original. Also there hasn't been a live action Japanese version of Ghost in the Shell. I feel like it would fail because they don't the capability to produce a version that please people on a technical scale. The Japanese movie industry don't have Hollywood money.


    Death Note US adaptation takes place in America. Why do we need the cast to be mostly Asian for an American adaptation? There are Japanese live action adaptations already out there so just watch those if the US adaptation is so offensive.


    The Japanese Attack on Titan live-action had all Japanese people played all the non-Asian people (which was nearly everyone except Mikasa who was the only true Asian). They didn't have one of the most popular characters in the live-action (which was Levi) because his name was too unbelievable that an Asian person would have that name. I wonder if there ever was an American adaptation of Attack on Titan that people would scream whitewashing if Eren was a white guy not Asian.


    I don't really care what type of person is playing a role as long as if their race/gender doesn't impact their character or the story. Whitewashing is a complex issue that won't be solve for a very long time.

  • Neville91 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Scarlett johansson is the connection between anime fans and film fans, nobody would see this film if it didnt have a famous AAA list actor selling it. I dont think it's enough and that nobody will see this.

  • eboyd16 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    He is my favorite guest. He is the only reason I would ever watch iZombie. 

  • RedAscendant16 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    I honestly don't care about race when it comes to roles UNLESS it's a big part of their character. For example, it would make no sense for a white actor to play Othello, but if Hamlet was played by a black actor it wouldn't matter to me

    • Stunner900 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Political Frog

      2 months ago

      The best part about Shakespeare is that you can change the ethnicity of the character and it'll still work

  • RedAscendant16 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Waaaait, so people are not only getting upset that white people are being cast in roles that seem inappropriate for their race, but they're also getting upset about white characters not being replaced by other races..? Isn't that kind of a double standard?

  • SamuelF FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    some of these shows don't always define the race so clearly

  • MeanMisterWalrus

    2 months ago

    Call out whitewashing when there are genuine examples of it, but don't use one argument one second and then the opposing argument another (which some people are doing). For example, when Tilda Swinton was cast as The Ancient One, one lot of people were saying "Hey! You can't cast a white female to play that character! The original source material says otherwise!" and yet when a black actress played Hermione for The Cursed Child and another group of people said "Hey! You can't cast a black female to play that character! The original source material says otherwise!", the first anti-Tilda Swinton group said in response: "It's fictional. You can have any interpretation of the role you want". That's just moving the goalposts. When JK Rowling stood up for the black actress playing Hermione against the torrent of horrible racist abuse, fair play - however her defence was intellectually dishonest; it is very likely that Rowling envisioned Hermione as white. Rowling describing Hermione looking tanned after a hot summer, occasions where her cheeks go pink, and moments when Hermione’s face “went white” when frightened or in stressful situations (Had Hermione been envisioned as black the whole time. the use of these phrases would be incredibly awkward and clunky). Rowling also approved every book cover - all of them that included Hermione made her white, as well as okaying the idea of Emma Watson playing Hermione when the films were first being made (surely she would have had hesitancy in the casting of Emma Watson had she envisioned Hermione as black?). To make it clear - I have no issues with a black actress playing Hermione, or an actor or actress being a different ethnicity to the character that they're playing (Unless it's a documentary or biopic), but Rowling should have said "I love black Hermione! I don't care about colour, whoever is best for the job is the most important thing" instead of "Who said Hermione is white? She could have been black the whole time...even though I didn't mention it once in the books despite the fact that mentioning Hermione being black in the books would have been exceptionally progressive, would have been given heaps of praise, and would have created a great fictional role model for black children who feel they are under represented in fiction". Dismiss shitty arguments - even if the shitty argument is supporting your point of view. If you want to cast a person of colour to play a character who is originally white because they are the best for the job and you want to push for better diversity in the film industry, then you should say that - instead of retreating to "Fictional works are interpretive" but then ignore that argument if Tilda Swinton or Scarlett Johansson are cast as characters who are originally Asian.

  • bethbubbles FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Would Rogue One be a good example of creating a role for an actor of colour AND having a diverse cast? They could have cast Cassian as a white guy, hell they could have cast all of Rogue One as white guys (plus Jyn) but instead they went with a hispanic male lead and an entire (good guy) cast of ethnic minorities? And that did really well. Though Star Wars has the safety of it being fucking Star Wars and people would watch it if it was Terrence Howard doing his maths things in the back of a meat truck, they did a really good thing for diversity and shifting the balance by creating an original film, knowing that it would sell anyway, and filling it with a very diverse cast.

  • Kahhhl FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    I think what annoys a lot of people about the whitewashing issue, and what makes it hard to get behind the movement as a whole, is the blatant hypocrisies on the anti- side. There are so many people online that view whitewashing in Hollywood as the most important issue of our times. They'll send death threats to people who disagree with them, doxx them, compare them to Hitler, etc. But, they absolutely refuse to acknowledge obviously parallel examples that don't support their views.


    A fairly major plot point of Attack on Titan, for instance, is that Mikasa is the only remaining Asian person alive within the walls. That is an irrefutable, canon fact. When Japan released a live action version in 2015, though, with an entirely Japanese cast, nobody gave a shit. It was a movie produced by Japanese people, for Japanese viewers, so of course they used Japanese actors. Then the live action Netflix Death Note gets announced, and people lose their minds. Even though, again, it's made by Americans, for American viewers, using (mostly) American actors. It's not even like they're only using white actors either, since L is Keith Stanfield.


    The typical lazy argument of "but white people are the predominant institutional power, so they can't be affected by this" can't even apply to this. If you think that the predominant power in anime/manga is anyone but the Japanese, then you're either woefully misinformed or delusional.


    It's very frustrating, since of course whitewashing stories can be bad. In fact, I'd say it usually is. But the prevailing party speaking out against it acts like exercising a bit of critical thinking and occasionally saying "No, I think this time is okay" makes you a literal Nazi, and the "us vs. them" nature of the internet makes it very hard to align myself with that.


    tl;dr: It's the classic internet story where a group of obnoxious, ignorant, intentionally hypocritical people back a good cause, and, in doing so, make it unappealing to the rest of us.

  • lootsorrow FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Rahul as Aladdin? no. Rahul as Jafar? All of my yes.

  • ajpantuso FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    I think the most important thing to come out of this conversation is that white-washing in media is symptomatic of the bigger issue of racism as a whole. Feigned attempts at diversity that are in reality attempts to create broad market appeal for sub-standard films doesn't breakdown racial barriers or improve the self-image of kids from marginalized communities. The first Captain America film depicted scenes of American soldiers of many races fighting side by side against swastika-less Nazis (Hydra). US military wasn't desegregated until 1948 and black American soldiers were victims of the US government in WWII and the wars that would follow. A more interesting Captain America movie would be one in which he awakes in the present and suddenly has to acknowledge the rights of women and people of color i.e. become a hero for all Americans. So while I understand the desire to have race be a non-factor in casting the mere choice to not adhere to standard casting is a statement in and of itself. So in the case of Idris Elba as James Bond, that would be awesome as long as we acknowledge that a black James Bond would be treated differently than a white James Bond. 

  • SabPhoenix

    2 months ago

    Love this so much! Great discussions and just all-around very meaningful conversation. It was great having Rahul there; It made the topic that much more meaningful and real.

    Agree with other viewers that have already mentioned the possibility of a follow-up of some type, or even just analysing the reviews/interviews from the cast and crew.

    Keep doing what you're doing guys!! <3

  • Hugh_King FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    This is a really complex issue with so many factors behind it that I feel like there is no real right answer. So to gain peace of mind I realized this. I don't really care what ethnicity or nationality the main characters in movies/shows are as long as they do a good job at explaining and immersing me into the story. The iron fist was horrid and not because of the fact that the lead actor was white, it was horrid because the writing felt rushed and unplanned and almost scattered to be honest, the choreography was just a joke and the fight scenes felt forced. To contrast lets look at Luther, that show is amazing, in my opinion, not because Idris Elba is black, its because he does an amazing job at sucking me into that little world he acting in. Just my two cents and how I look at this stuff.

  • Hugh_King FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Im sure they know this but movies are a money draining tub during the time it takes to make them. That money has to come from somewhere. To get investors to spend money on the production you need to cast people that would attract an audience so that the investors know that the production will return them their money and then some. They just cast whoever they can afford + whoever the investors will like.

  • MeaganG FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    This is probably my favourite episode of filmhaus yet; really interesting discussion and I was happy to hear Rahul's stance on the issue (and also to see him, in general!)

  • AzuStar FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    I think im getting elyse's point about "genderbending" heroes that are normally male to be female being lazy. its kind like saying a popular female hero can only be made by banking off the success of these male dominated hero name, built over years of work, instead being a female associated name to begin with. instead of a women needing to be "King" to rule, why can't the Queen just claim the throne? never really thought of it like that.


  • Foxfire22 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Please do a follow up after watching ghost in the shell. I thought the movie was just ok but when I break it down I loved so much about it. The Actors, the aesthetic, the original anime scene recreations and even the plot (not from the anime) fits perfectly into the gits world and really the only gripe I had was how little the movie respects the audiences intelligence but still I can't quite put a finger on why I only thought it was ok and not really good. 

  • rhyswinz FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold RT Pride

    2 months ago

    can rahul come to rtx london please :^) 

  • Jacktclark FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    I feel like the "safe" option of choosing a white actor could/does lead to the procudtion companies shooting them self in the foot. As an "average" white male, the race of a character doesn't matter to me, I don't need to be represented in media, it wouldn't hurt me if every major actor was someone of colour. If more people of colour were cast in more roles (I agree with Rahul the more original stories the better) then the people who representation is important to, and those who need it would go watch those movies, and personally for me (and hopefully most white people) I would just think based off trailers that looks like a good movie and go watch it not thinking about the race of the characters.


    (I apologise if this comes across as insensitive, as a typical white dude I am not observant enough on issues of race and am trying to be more aware of these issues, hence why I love wantching content like this with guys like Rahul, so I can be exposed to a greater variety of world views.)

  • AbstractSpaces FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    You guys touched on this a little, but to me the only time race matters in casting is when it impacts immersion in the movie. I don't think source material should be followed blindly, so if a character's race has no impact on the film then they should be able to cast whoever (e.g. Idris Elba as Heimdall in Thor). And on the other hand, since Ghost In The Shell is set in Japan with a bunch of Japanese characters, it feels kinda jarring when the main character stands out so much for no reason.

  • Entombed

    2 months ago

    Did they just say that India isn't as diverse as America? India is one of the most diverse countries on the planet, both ethnically and culturally. I mean come on,  they speak 1600 different languages.

    >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level

  • MichaelHuds3 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    i feel there are 3 levels in hollywood in terms of race 

    1. small movies where the cast matters very little(and they don't have a budget for larger actors) and it's purely about the story etc

    2. mid tier movies that have a sizeable budget but not the brand power to draw in crowds alone and need that big name actor

    3. the big brand movies where the the cast is almost unrelated to the success of the movies avatar, Force Awakens, furious 7 and titanic 

    now in that last lot i don't see race etc effecting all that much as with star wars and furious 7 both being very multicultural and just old fashioned movie executives or an awkward setting stopping that eg. black people on the titanic....


    now in that mid tier Pacific rim is a great example it's rather multicultural but the biggest name being the director you can only just call it successful for the amount it cost yet something like San Andreas made more money at half the budget because Rock(though he is ethnic)

  • Natrone FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Rahoul is this shit. Love it when he shows up in Funhaus content

  • Night_Mayor FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Harmless (mostly)

    2 months ago

    I understand the studio's desire to cast a 'big name' actor in a big budget movie, but it's a self-reinforcing argument.  If you only cast 'big name' actors, no-one else can become a 'big name' actor.


    Also, I like Raoul.  Make him be in more stuff...

  • SourDoughJACK FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Every time Adam puts that paper up and it comes into view, the contrast goes through the roof

  • YellowJesus FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    On the point of the Japanese director having no issue with whitewashing, he's not the ones being under-represented. He's a Japanese person living in Japan, he is represented in his own media. Whitewashing in Hollywood has no direct effect on him. What whitewashing hurts are the Asian Americans. What it shows is that our culture is good enough for Hollywood, or "bankable", but we as people are not. 


    I get that having a Hollywood star (white) is a big deal in foreign films. I had first hand experience growing up in China. But since moving here, I've notice how much people of color are under represented in media, especially Asian men as romantic interests or even just a lead role outside of martial art films. If Hollywood justifies whitewashing the Ancient one to appease the Chinese audience, wouldn't having an Asian lead in a Hollywood production draw more people in? 


    And let's not forget how much people were OK with the yellow-face in Cloud Atlas. Baby steps I guess, just don't go backwards. 

  • inryoku FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold ଘ(੭*ˊᵕˋ)੭*:・゚✧

    2 months ago

    I feel like they don't take story into account. With Death Note it is very inappropriate for a 20 something white boy to kill off prisoners, considering most of our prison population is people of color.


    Also in Ghost in the Shell what I'm seeing is majority of the bad guys are asian, if they are going to say we have to make it white to sell then why do we have white heroes killing a bunch of ethnic characters. Can they not see how insensitive and off putting that is for viewers who are not white?

    • YellowJesus FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 months ago

      great point on Death Note, also Japan abolished the death penalty, so there's a very important context missed here. Two very different societies with very different prison systems. 

    • johneustice

      2 months ago

      To be fair it seems like this is from last week since it was recorded the same day that trailer was released but damn, seems like no one there has reverence for the original!

    • VaultHunter26 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 months ago

      Inryoku, so killing other people of the same race is ok but not other races? What logic is that? I feel almost like that is putting other races on a pedestal and treating them differently(isn't that a form of segregation?). I would imagine Kira being an equal opportunity murderer as he hated crime and injustice in the world. I doubt he would stop and go "that person is a murderer but oh wait its another race I wont bother". That is some dumb politically correct bullshit.

    • inryoku FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold ଘ(੭*ˊᵕˋ)੭*:・゚✧

      2 months ago

      I never said killing people of certain races was okay, but as always the offended by being 'politically correct' attack by stating something outrageous. I was pointing out the further violence of a middle class white boy killing those in our prison system that is a majority of poc because of police profiling and harsher punishments because of racism. By making Kira a white boy it adds nothing but further racially charged violence that people of color already face. Having an american version of death note is stupid, it holds nothing close to the same cultural meaning as it did as a japanese story.

  • johneustice

    2 months ago

    Crazy how this is the same director from the bad Snow White adaptation. Maybe he tried to do the same thing he did with Stewart for his new lead? 

    Enjoy the podcast! The Fast and the Furious one should be fun!!

  • Lanterncourt FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Raul is exactly right, if you want your story to be told than write it, don't adapt existing things to your existence.

    • johneustice

      2 months ago

      Not his point but cute. 

    • stu101093 Brightstone

      2 months ago

      Why not both? 


      I think Rahul made a good point I hadn't considered that, if the Major doesn't have to be Japanese... why is she white and not any other ethincity? If you can differ from the source material on this, why is it that non-white stories can become white but white stories can never be non-white?

    • Stunner900 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Political Frog

      2 months ago

      for example don't make a female Thor.....

  • GeeeReg FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Now with 20% less fat!

    2 months ago

    To me this is just another example of an established, highly profitable business practice meeting a cultural shift. Business doesn't want to change, because a sufficiently profitable model is a model you leave the fuck alone. But in culture we don't make moves and go "what would be best?" Things just shift and change and hopefully we're all cogent enough in the moment to go "well, things are changing this way, does that direction make sense?" and then the conversation starts.


    The business practice just needs to do what good business practices do, which is take what they see as a risk and adapt to a changing market. The perceived market isn't even just white families anymore, never mind the actual market. So, eventually a movie will take a 'risk' and will cast someone whose race is not caucasian in a role that most studios would look at and go 'default to caucasian'. And audiences will go "Huh, he/she's <race>? Okay." and of course people online will complain, as they always do, but eventually it'll happen and be a big enough financial success that other studios will go "Oh, we can cast someone else in that role and it won't negatively impact the revenue? Then who gives a shit, take the restrictions off." 


    That's my hope anyway, as someone who knows nothing of the film industry and is a caucasian heterosexual male, so this isn't really an issue I can understand the inside of by any means. Still, I'd hope given my ignorance that this happens in the next like 15 years. 2032 isn't going to give a shit that this big summer blockbuster starred a Nepalese woman, because she's not just "a Nepalese woman", she's this known actor who's had financial success and is taking on the role of a more heavily budgeted film. 

  • CodedThreat FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold VicariousTool

    2 months ago

    Great to see Rahul back, Have loved iZombie since I started watching it halfway into the first season. I also agree with his point about taking steps back when a ethnic character is put into a big budget film and it flops. There are some ethnic actors who can carry a big budget movie on their own, Denzel Washington can still do it alone, Jackie Chan used to before he seemed to stop making movies, Eddie Murphy before he stopped being funny, but those actors seem to be few and far between and so far it seems like only male actors have been given the chance to try. There have been movies with a female ethnic lead, but they are usually lower budget and mostly docu-dramas or just pushed as chick flicks. And I think some actors are aware of the fact that if they step into a major role in a big budget movie and it flops, it could set back all the progress that was made up to that point. So I am looking at this GitS thing a little different here. We need more female leads of any race in big budget action movies.


    For females it seems even harder because even white females barely get to lead a big budget movie, Scarlett Johansson might not be asian, but she is leading a big budget action film while being female. So it might not be a ethnic push, but it is a push in the right direction for females to start hopefully getting bigger leading roles in action movies. Because I like seeing a woman kicking some ass and busting a few caps. The only other movie that comes to mind that had that is Underworld. Kate Beckinsale owned it in the first movie, and while it might not have had the biggest budget, it was certainly a change from the other female action movies that came before it. So I hope GitS does well, just so we can hopefully get another movie with a female kicking ass and maybe she could be the asian woman from Pacific Rim that no one knows the name of and have no way of finding out or maybe even  elyse !

  • hero_hadley FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Long time lurker

    2 months ago

    I always wanted Idris Elba to play Batman. After I watched Luther I knew he would kill it!

  • shersten 셰리

    2 months ago

    I feel like Lucy Liu could have pulled off Ghost in the Shell really well. She might be getting a little older than they would've liked though. Still, I think she's a huge asian actress who has been a trailblazer for asian women in Hollywood.

  • MarkelD FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    "White-washing" is not a thing, you fuck sticks.

  • TheRTV FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Round Peg in Square Hole

    2 months ago

    I'm really glad Rahul was here to talk about race in hollywood. He made an excellent point about not having a big A lister for a minority right now. There's no go to Asian guy that will bring everyone out to watch whatever movie they decide to make. I also completely agree with the point that for gender or races, don't swap out big characters. Invest in quality new ones. Like Dwayne McDuffie (RIP) did with Milestone Media and black superheroes. It's sad that as an Asian-American, I don't expect any diversity at all in mainstream stuff. It's why I'm so happy a good series like Master of None got some recognition. 

  • whatdajay FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold True King in the North

    2 months ago

    I'm really glad Rahul was on this episode. It felt like he brought a new perspective we wouldn't have gotten from the normal crew and it was interesting to hear.


    In terms of Ghost in the Shell, I agree with the idea that the Major could be ANYBODY because a major theme of the original film is the disconnect between her body and mind so why not use someone that would be under represented. I get the idea of "We need someone BIG to put butts in the seats and make a profit", but where is that line where the role is TOO big for a new actor/actress? How are ethnic minorities ever going to get to big roles in Hollywood, when the roles that are small enough for them are given to white actors/actresses anyway? At a certain point a level of risk is necessary for any progress to be made.

  • WickedSeven FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold TheWickedZach

    2 months ago

    I am excited to see Idris Elba as Roland Deschain in The Dark Tower movie!

  • kkuppa FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Chris Evans is not Canadian.

  • RedRully FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    So if people are fine with making iron fist asian then why arent they ok with making the major white, most anime/manga characters are drawn caucasian and the major looks more like scar jo then any asian women I've ever seen. just a lot of double standards. 

    • dusklux FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Cat Prince

      2 months ago

      "most anime/manga characters are drawn caucasian" 
      what....exactly does this mean? generally the way a character is drawn =/= their race. even if they're drawn with blonde hair and light eyes, it doesn't really mean they're drawn caucasian. plus the fact that they live in japan, speak japanese, have traditional names.......sorta insinuates that the character themself is asian. 

  • Geehump FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Wait, is this Filmhaus or "Movie Podcast"? Because Adam said one thing and the title said another.

  • ChaserMcswiggins

    2 months ago

    As someone who recently finished GITS SAC. (the anime Tv show that came out in 2002-2005)       (i know, watching a Tv show makes suuuuch an expert on movies but still) the trailer alone tells me i wont like this movie. What made the movie cool for me,(and i assume alot of people), was the realism that the show made you believe in. while the show took place in a fictional future that had seen the invention of cyborg bodies, two more world wars and construction of near true A:I. you still bought into the idea that this shit could happen by 2037. when the characters did some thing (action sequences or even mundane bullshit) you bought it, it was not some action show for you to gawk at, it was the set of actions the characters had to take in order to accomplish their mission. That's why i think this movie is missing the heart of what made GITS good. 


    Cant speak on the dialog for this one as i haven't seen the movie but if the character design and that director Aremak shooting a dude and reloading a revolver scene say anything, then i can assume that they dont get why each character was uniquely cool. 


    Again tho, i haven't seen it so take all this with less than a grain of salt.



    Also that gaysha (spelled wrong) scene looks real dumb, like, real dumb. (Wht the Fuck are there so many white dudes at that table?) (also why the fuck would you make a gaysha pleasure bot out of porcelain and what looks like expensive brass internal parts) 



    TL;Dr movie looks real dumb.

  • Zerkle FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold JerkingtheGerk

    2 months ago

    Excellent!  Very glad to see Rahul come back for more Funhaus content.

  • kcramthun FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    I always thought it would be cool if they cast Idris in a spinoff "00-" movie. There's so much they could call back to. James Bond steals another agent's Aston Martin in the last movie, make it Idris Elba's character's and that scene practically writes itself.

  • Zenith.JW FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    I hope this means Rahul will be in a few of the upcoming videos, he's a delight! 

  • slopitchplayer FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    The one white washing of a character that angered me was casting Rooney Mara as Tiger Lily in the pan(2015) movie like the character is a Native American princess. 

  • VaultHunter26 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Here is a novel idea, how bout just stick to the races of the source material? If someone is white in the anime then they are white, if someone is Asian in a comic book then they are Asian, etc.. If it is a completely made up character in a made up story that doesn't have any source material, then who fucking cares. Lastly, I don't think executives are thinking necessarily by race but just how much star power someone has. If it makes them money they are on board. That is really all it comes down too. Hell, if they thought casting Bill Murray in a sailor moon movie adaptation would make them money they would do that too. It legitimately does not matter what the circumstances are as long as they get a good return on the project.

  • JCS FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    I agree with the concept that nowadays the casting role in a movie is about which available actor is going to bring more people to the theater.

  • Kr1sp FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    Towards Elyse's point on Tilda Swinton, if they had picked a Chinese actor I think that would be even more insulting to the people who lost a character of their race because China doesn't see them as a country. Maybe any other Asian country would have been neutral but they probably figured if they're gunna do that and appease neither side then they'd prefer to get a box office draw that's easier to find. It was an unfortunate situation.

    • johneustice

      2 months ago

      Tibet exists and is not China... You might need some readings on this matter. 

    • Kr1sp FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 months ago

      I never said they didn't exist? They decided using a Tibetan actress would hurt sales in China and Elyse said why not use a Chinese actor in that case. I think that would be even more insulting to Tibet.