SLENDER MAN STILL SCARY? - Movie Podcast

Filmhaus Podcast: SLENDER MAN STILL SCARY? - Movie Podcast

This week the gang discusses the trailer for the upcoming Slender Man film while we all wonder what year it is. They also talk about the history of Slender Man, its place in modern folklore, and what makes a good horror movie actually scary.

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  • dbrame FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    There is already a good Slenderman movie called Always Watching: A Marble Hornets Story. It plays into the creepypasta style mythos and does the stuff that it should. Only bad part of it is the end where something that is never stated as an ability of Slenderman and used to finish the story.

  • Stunner900 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Political Frog

    2 weeks ago

    The movie could be good if they placed it in Germany and have it be a demonic being that the kids unleash.

  • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    As someone who knows one of the families involved in the stabbing, I'd personally prefer they DON'T make a movie about that specific situation. There are a lot of details that didn't get to the press and the family's still recovering as far as I know. The documentary is slanderous enough.

  • AngryMonkey FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    I think it would have been way more interesting if they had written the game and that kid that got murdered into the plot. Where the game exists and is just a game until this kid gets killed in some ritual that brings slenderman into our world and suddenly it's not just a game with some creepypasta. Then maybe they have to find all the pages from the ritual to reverse engineer it to send him back to who cares. Probably would be in really bad taste since someone did actually die, but it would have been more interesting that this garbage. Maybe in 10 years or so.

  • iEatDONUT FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    There was this manga I read that I felt had a really good concept that would work perfectly for Slenderman. The basic concept in the manga is the more people believed in an urban legend, the "stronger" it became as a monster. It's literally a creature formed from nothing that becomes something because someone made up a story that people believed, and with more "sightings" of this creature, more people believed and it became stronger


    I think, as a movie concept, Slenderman can be a monster that strengthens in manifestation based on a person's belief in Slenderman (as oppose to how many people believed in it). This way, they can take references from literally all sources of Slenderman to this date. The games, the creepypastas, the stabbings, etc. Say, a disappearance happened, and an investigator, family member, friend, whatever finds the person's obsession with Slenderman. In that person's search, they start researching into this "Slenderman" and at the beginning, they completely believe it's bogus. However, as time goes on, the person starts to rationalize the creature


    "Maybe he was mentally ill and believed it was real." "Maybe there was someone playing a prank on him." "Maybe someone dressed up as Slenderman and is trying to mess with him."


    As time went on, they, not so directly, start believing a form of this "entity" exists, fake or real. That's when it starts to manifest itself into the person's reality. They look into these various YouTube videos, study up on the source. Look into stories of "mental insanity" related to Slenderman. The stabbings allegedly driven by this boogeyman character. Suddenly, the investigation as to why the person disappeared suddenly becomes a journey to learn "What is Slenderman"


    They meet people who believe this, some say they believe it but deep down, they don't. However, it's when he interviews a person that truly believes in the monster that it starts to really kick off. As that person starts falling into "insanity" is when it really cements into the investigator's mind that "this is real". Then shit goes third act kinds of crazy


    I also want to note, this isn't some monster based on mental instability and people going crazy. This is a very real monster that grows stronger as a person starts to incrementally believe it is real

  • hahapwnd11 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    This movie doesn't take away from the existing mythos and stories that are still being made, people can still watch the ARG series. I'd really recommend TribeTwelve, EverymanHybrid and the rest of the Slenderverse, it's a slow burn at first, the acting is meh for some of them, the visual effects ABSOLUTELY increase in effectiveness as the series goes on (particularly with Tribetwelve), and doesn't become 3 dudes with cameras chasing each other in various locations like MarbleHornets becomes. Basically, if you'd like a story about "What do you do when a seemingly unstoppable force hunts you and distorts your understanding of reality?" then you might like looking into the ARG.


    So, I feel like only Adam knowing about the source and mythos of Slenderman kinda diminishes the conversation, where the rest of the FH crew's only reference point is of the game. Albeit, that's what I'm assuming most of the populations knowledge of slender, if any. As a person who is an avid fan of slender mythos, this movie does feel like a cash grab that won't be reviewed well, which sucks because the mythos actually lends a bunch of interesting horror aspects, not just "creepy thing that's off putting". They don't even have to take from existing concepts like proxies (Slender man basically takes control of people and uses them to act in the world), the found footage style (although, multiple slenderverse creators have said they like that choice), his abilities (space-time travel, memory erasing, mind control, ya know, eldritch god shit), his motivations and weaknesses (basically to repair himself to become a god again since them good o'l nazis opened the hellgate and made him vulnerable), or hell, the most interesting part (imo) of the slenderman mythos, competing entities (other malicious beings that are motivated to hamper or aid slenderman, usually to further their own plots against the world, eg HABIT, the collective, the rake, Michael, Stan Fredrick maybe cause that storyline was weird).


    But they didn't take influence from any of the lore that has been offered to them (the creators of Tribetwelve, EverymanHYBRID, DarkHarvest00, Stan Fredrick, MLAnderson, ie, the slenderverse (not in the same cannon as MarbleHornets, but given from the name alone, definitely inspired by them), have all been open and would want for their work to inspire a hollywood production). 


    They got the creator of the picture instead, and based things off of the original idea "Slenderman snatches kids" and basically discarded the interesting stuff, expect maybe it looks like there's a watered down 1d version of proxies. Kids being influenced to kill other kills for whatever reason. Who knows, maybe they couldn't get on board the rest of the creators of Slenderman lore (they should have at least tried though) or couldn't afford to give out paychecks to all of the other people involved, or maybe they turned it down because of life shit (they have been on haitus after several moves, school, it is just a passion project for them afterall).

    • Robjec FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      i think its just because this way is cheaper, but it might be that marble hornets can't be used because of the arguments over rights and pay that came with their split. which may also remove any use of anything derived from them, which would include the slenderverse stuff. Of course all those are also much further down the chain the anyone working on the movie likely looked :p 

    • hahapwnd11 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      @Robjec yeaaaaaah that's probably true for the most part. Just slap on a different IP, send the animation orders to korea, cast a few alright unknown actors, and wait to make the money back and then some. But the creator of the original pics is credited as a writer, and I'm sure Jay and Adam and Evan and the rest of the Slender creators have had some form of contact with him. Hell, MH had a slender meet up at a few cons, and I think EMH did too since a lot of them have been moving in with each other and are in the same area.

    • Robjec FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      @hahapwnd11 maybe, but i think most of them spawned far enough down the line to be unrelated to him. Plus there is a limit on how many extra creative voices you bring in before it just becomes a mess. 

  • BarackObllama FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Crazy how most people know Slenderman because of the game, but I know it because of a series called "Marble Hornets" and I think that series will remain infinitely better than what the movie can do.

    • MagiMan FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      Yes! That channel was super creepy.

  • Chaotic_Monk FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Bullshit Artist

    2 weeks ago

    I think if they made a film that didn't start out as a Slender film, but slowly became one with Slender occasionally appearing in the far background of shots, kind of a Marble Hornets-esque thing, that would be awesome

  • honkysachmo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Noah

    2 weeks ago

    [REDACTED] 

  • 221BLazerTeam FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Great episode! ... I'm always excited when I see a new one posted

  • nursem FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    This Truth or Dare movie is a total ripoff of the Kings Game Manga/Anime. Not plot for plot but the same basic idea - A game that follows you, only way to win if for everyone to die, if you survive you carry it to another group of people, you have to complete fucked up dare's or die. Check out King's Game anime on VRV, Crunchyroll, or Funimation if you want a better version of Truth or Dare.

    • nursem FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      @Funhaus

    • Robjec FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      That is not really a unique idea in the horror genre. Or at least, the elements which make it up aren't. A spreadable curse combined with a death game :p Also for an older version of it from Japan look up Kakurenbo Hide and Seek. it came out 6 years earlier :p  

  • MrLilja FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold MrLilja

    2 weeks ago

    this was 2spooky4me 

  • Jordy. FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Jordy

    2 weeks ago

    I like this style of editing, with voices over the trailer. Gives the video a bit of 'pacing', if you know what I mean.

  • JCS FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Dan looks so happy at the end  laughing

  • Greenbeans63 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Kevin Greenfield

    2 weeks ago

    That buddies ending was the greatest ending of all time

  • PacMonster FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    I disagree with Lawrence that Slender Man doesn't have enough mythos to be made into a movie. I mean what is the mythos of Jason? He died in a lake, his mom was crazy, he came back as a teen killing zombie with a machete. What's the mythos behind Micheal Myers? Crazy dude who hated his family and killed all of them and anybody who reminds him of his family. Freddy Kruger? Janitor who was burned alive by the parents of the school he worked at. These aren't complicated back stories. They each had a gimmick to work with and rolled with it and it worked out pretty well for those movies.


    It isn't just that creepy pasta photoshop competition that can be pulled from for reference either. There have been tons of stories involving those pictures that cropped up which further the "myth" as it were. Just the look of slenderman alone is enough of an interesting gimmick. In the earliest stories from the creepy pasta slenderman would show up and lure kids into the forest where they would disappear. Or as Adam said there's Marble Hornets (which was basically Slenderman) which created the technology disruption and driving people in close proximity to it crazy aspects of the character. From the video games they could incorporate Slenderman's ability to seemingly teleport around.


    Point is there is more than enough for any decent writer to work from to craft a good horror movie. The character is pretty much suspense personified. The idea that he could always be near you, watching you. The unfortunate vibe I got from the trailer wasn't that I thought the point behind the movie couldn't work, it was that it looks like they're just going to treat Slenderman like any generic monster in some B movie. With jump scares as the primary method of scaring people and that's a shame.


    The reason why Slenderman became so popular so quickly back a few years ago was because the mystery of the character works. If I was writing the story I would have combined story elements from IT and Marble Hornets. Start with a small heavy wooded town. There's multiple missing child flyers attached to every street pole. From here we follow a group of adolescents, between the ages of maybe 10-16. The group of kids have some hideout they like to visit in the woods just outside town and one day one of the kids happens to stumble by a dilapidated structure almost entirely covered over in vegetation, weeds, and vines. The kid opens the door to the structure and sees that the space is empty except that the walls are filled with drawings of just the outline of a face with no facial features. There's a note sitting on what's left of a table in the structure. The kid takes the note and leaves to rejoin his friends. As he leaves the camera shifts focus to the trees behind the structure where a tall shadowy figure appears to loom. The top of the shadow appears to move to face the leaving child. From here we follow the kid as he rejoins his friends, tells them about the structure and the note he found. The note simply says, "he wants to play" over and over on it with scribbles of the same featureless face that were on the walls of the structure. The group of kids follow the main kid back to where he found the note but there is no structure. The other kids make fun of him (he's the youngest), accuse him of writing the note and they all leave for home. Before leaving the main kid looks at the trees and sees a tall shadow move behind a tree. The kid points to the trees and tells the other kids to look. The camera again shifts to the same spot in the trees but there's nothing there. I'm not going to write an entire screen play here but you get where this is going. Slenderman drives the kid nuts and eventually kills the kid without us ever really getting a jump scare moment. Maybe even throw a little "It Follows" in there with the kid trying to get Slenderman to start appearing to his other friends which it does driving them mad and eventually disappearing as well.

  • UndeadPriest94 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    -8:03 A unique interest that Lawrence has, namely for his pre-existing love for Japan. There's stories in Japanese folklore of Ikiryō, the souls of living beings that leave their bodies. In some cases, when one person holds a sufficient grudge, they can take this form to inflict curses upon their grudge.

  • catzalive FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    best closing segment EVER

  • parson44 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    James I completly agree with what you mean by how a Horror movie villain has too much backstories at time. I think it comes into more of a Spiritual Jargon. There is only a specific fan base that loves that Spiritual Jargon and it's the 13 year old "Wickins" who practice crystal therapy. This type of jargon is not universal to a general horror movie. Horror needs to have an element where a general audience can either say, wow that was disturbing/ambiguous, or wow this movie really made me think deeply about a human function or idea. 

  • helgrin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    I found it interesting at 11:29 when James got Nico Minoru confused with America Chavez, because I think Nico is a good character to prove his point.

    Nico has magic staff that can cast any spell once, and only once. She got it from her parents who were super villains.

    America Chavez got her powers from weird space particles on her from some weird parallel universe entity when her parents sacrificed themselves to seal black holes that were pulling her alternate dimension into the multiverse...or something (I just read the wiki, not the comics)? That somehow gave her Superman's powers along with inter-dimensional travel and time travel powers.

    Nico has a core concept that is clearly defined, easily and quickly describable and has built in limits. America is a confusing mess.

  • srrealist FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Elyse, Lawrence, DARK is fucking awesome. Time travel AND existentialism??? Its a Nietzsche wet dream on screen!

  • TurnerBurn FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Funnier in editing.

    2 weeks ago

    I've heard that on set the dog that played Budderball was a real bitch!

  • cartmicah FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    damn it guys i just love watching you babble about movies

  • masher14 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    That fucking hard cut at the end had me floored, holy crap.

  • womenbshoppin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Could've sworn Slenderman was invented on /x/ on 4chan about 10 years ago.

  • Zikoro FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Oh my god... James is cheating on Benson with another dog!

  • Stefantababy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Wait so hold on.....was that actually one of the Air Bud dogs!


    (p.s. Slenderman looks like it might be a get drunk at laugh movie)

    • gawshawg FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      p.s.s. That's every movie

  • RobobearX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Fun factoid about some of those video game movies, they were money making schemes using a German Tax loophole for art, all the money "used" to make the movie is tax deductible, only the returns the movie gets are taxable, making an incentive to make bad movies with very big budgets. Uwe Boll seemed to be a big name doing this. Source: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/issues/issue_81/460-Uwe-Boll-and-the-German-Tax-Code

  • TheTussin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    It Follows applied the horror of Slederman very well I think, while adding their own twist.

  • easilyflakey FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    I like Adam's sweater

  • sherlock633 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Love the series, can't wait to see what's next.

  • Stenhard_Kinnikuman FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Don't be Cody Be Haggar

    2 weeks ago

    Everyone knows Red Letter Media invented slender man, channel zero is pretty decent though

  • MoHawKacHo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold MoHawKacHo

    2 weeks ago

    Pyramid Head scares the shit out of me and I don't know why. Silent Hill was great. Also there is a great documentary about slender man on YouTube. It's the one with 5 parts. 

    • Stenhard_Kinnikuman FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Don't be Cody Be Haggar

      2 weeks ago

      As soon as you find out that there’s more than one pyramid head it kinda looses that spook factor

  • GearsGuy1945 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    ...hold on.  Were Jon and Bones REALLY on a set with the dog?  That was the biggest twist of this whole podcast!

  • DJMVFFIN FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    I always believed that one of the scariest parts about Slenderman was the fact that there are stakes for the player. The more pages you get, the more you really don't want to see Slenderman, and knowing that his mechanic is that he can show up at any time creates a lot of tension for the player. The actual sighting of Slenderman always felt like a jumpscare to me, but what really makes the game scary is the constant feeling that at any second Slenderman will come and get you.


    This movie seems like it saw Slenderman and said "ooh look, a scary monster that all the kids know, time to make a movie with this character," and not "ooh look, a scary monster with a gimic that all the kids know, lets make a movie with this gimic," and then make a movie that builds off of that (and for extra effect have slenderman actually kill the main cast cuz like no one won that game). As Adam said it would have been a very good "modern day blair witch" and then they could have added the static effect. Now this movie may be great, but right now I feel like its just going to waste what could've been a great concept for a movie.

    • Stenhard_Kinnikuman FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Don't be Cody Be Haggar

      2 weeks ago

      All spooky spaghettis are Garbo

  • Dappertree901 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Another great filmhaus, but I have to agree that it is way to late to make this movie but I do not see movie producers making 5 years ago either. Either way I'm disappointed the movie looks so bland and uninspired 

  • roflkittins FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    I agree with Adam, that Silent Hill was the best video game movie.

  • Killer_B_413 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    In my opinion, it's way too late for a Slenderman movie. 

    • Stenhard_Kinnikuman FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Don't be Cody Be Haggar

      2 weeks ago

      And the smb movie

    • Killer_B_413 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      Idk if you mean Super Mario Bros (that's all that popped up when I typed "smb movie") but at least that is modern. No matter how many years go by; People will know the Super Mario Bros. People now-a-days probably barely remember or know Slenderman.

  • Xzakuter FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Xzakuter

    2 weeks ago

    Dan looks like he bout to say "Fuck her right in the pussy"

  • TheKarjee FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    When it comes to the best video game movie I've always felt it was Scott Pilgrim vs the world, if you play the game its was released with its shockingly faithful to it in both theme and world/set design.

    • Stenhard_Kinnikuman FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Don't be Cody Be Haggar

      2 weeks ago

      It was a comic before the game

    • TheKarjee FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      I had no idea, thanks. I'm definitely gonna check out the comics.

  • fozzie52 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    IS THAT THE REAL DOG?

  • KatyBacon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Marble Hornets is free and it's very good considering it's a youtube series made by some guys from Alabama, and practical effects and gopros!

    • HereComeGiants FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      random fact, but they were at RTX 2015 and I almost lost my shit when I walked by them. 

    • vongunther FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      I did love that series but it starts so slow it was impossible to get my friends into it. The only reason I stayed with it is because I knew Slenderman and the slow to start formula that I did eventually really enjoy.