We Were RIGHT ALL YEAR? - #49

Dude Soup: We Were RIGHT ALL YEAR? - #49

Suck it, The Internet. In this glorious approximately one-hour podcast we refute all of you to PROVE how right we were about EVERYTHING all year long. And if you have any disagreements with anything we have to say, rest assured in the knowledge that you're WRONG and we're RIGHT and you can, as we said at the outset of this description, SUCK IT.

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  • Jin_D3vil FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Scotsman

    1 year ago

    This was a very interesting Dude Soup, I won't talk about all of the topics but the discussion of games as an addictive medium was very interesting. It's a difficult topic as there are always going to be varying arguments of if it is addictive, plus if enough is done to protect those who have an addictive personality.


    I'll first point out that since as far back as I can remember games have came with a manual that stated that they are unhealthy and you should not play them for long periods of times (less relevant with digital games). I can remember many games with similar warnings in the game as well. If anything I think this evidence of people trying to watch out for the consumer, even when this is met with mocking at what use it is or why it's even there. But for a long time there has been measures taken for peoples safety.


    The truth is games are addictive, that's the market in a nutshell really. Be it an escape, a mental test with a sense of achievement or other award that satisfies the gamers need on some level. Every game is built with this in mind and tries to enhance the best aspects of their game to get a player to enjoy the game. From hardcore games that push people to complete very hard levels, or a progression based RPG that hooks you with a story and addictive combat and character/cast growth. The game is built to suck people in.


    What the discussion should be, is that people are made aware of this. But personally I think everyone should know this. If you are missing sleep, altering your daily life or changing what you do. Then you are being an addict to that. Be it TV, films or games. That's an addictive personality and response to wanting to be satisfied. We need to realise this ourselves and aknowledge this and understand that if we ignore this, we are allowing the problem to exist.


    Now that's not to say a real addict could realise this, but I also don't think people are unaware of this as well. Unless people around them are not noticing this, or even remotely talking to them about this to ensure they are okay. In which case, the social dynamic has failed over the fact that a game is addictive. We need to accept responsibility for ourselves, but not glorify the bad side of that addictive side. Not to think "Yeah he played CoD for 5 days straight, what a nutter" and perhaps say to them. This isn't a good thing, Some times we learn this ourselves, I did years ago. But not everyone will do so, they can't see the problem with it and can't get out of that habit without help.

    • Jin_D3vil FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Scotsman

      1 year ago

      Old topic, but I find these kind of things interesting and compelling. Gaming has been a large thing in my life and I always enjoy talking about it. But i also defend it quite a bit from the baseless accusations that are often leveled at it (games cause violence and so on). I feel bad for the Russian who lost his life to Fallout 4 (as he claims). But he openly stated "If I knew it would be addictive i'd have bought it during the holidays". Which to me speaks more volumes of the person than the addictive element of the game. He openly admits to the game being addictive, but he'd still play it. Where often an addict will say they don't want to slip or go back. They realise the addiction and the desire is there and acknowledge it. But have realised it's a bad thing. He didn't seem to make it that way, more that it wasn't his fault he bought it at the wrong time.


      In that way I can't feel this was due to the game being addictive. It seems more like a personal problem than just the fact he couldn't stop playing. It's sad, because it may well be the case and I am unable to see that as I have not experianced that with a game. But my experiance in life says that's not the case so I can't take it as that wasn't his doing and was purely Fallout 4.

  • Adamuss FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Same. Won't load :(

  • Moby1029 Jesuit Novice

    1 year ago

    sooooo this video still won't load for me and i've tried to watch it for 2 days now

    • Chad1888 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Just go watch it on Youtube

  • epalexander FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I loved this episode. I learned so much about cocain. Keep up the goooooood work. : ]

  • Abracadamek FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I started out wary of your content being added to Roosterteeth because I didn't know who you were. I'm glad I gave your uploads a chance because it's some of the cleverest, most intelligent content I've come across. You're comments on depression, even though it was mostly in passing, made me smile. It made me happy to see (once again) that you aren't only normal people, but that you understand people. Mostly I wanted to thank you. So thanks, Funhaus, for being a very friendly, smart, and relatable bunch of goofballs.

  • SmokeSix FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Based on the discussion of regulation, addiction and gaming, plus discussion you have had in the past in regards to micro transactions. Do you think that packs should be regulated, for example REQ packs (Halo 5) FUT Packs (Fifa Series) TF2 Packs etc. I see them as similar to lottery tickets, you pay based on a promise that you could win X,Y or Z and this can become addicting. I myself have spent lots of money trying to get a certain player, weapon or skin by opening 'random' packs. As they are generally small amounts of money per pack unless there is a special deal running I find you can easily justify 'just opening one more pack' because they carry such a small price tag.


    Generally you find larger/ expensive packs have a limit but I feel this could be down to balancing the game rather than regulation, however I could be wrong. Personally micro transactions and DLC do not bother me as if I want additional content or pay to unlock (as long as it is balanced) then I am happy to pay. What does concern me is the addiction to opening packs, I would liken this to a form of gambling and therefore think it should be investigated / regulated.


    Would love to hear your thoughts...

  • DrpTheBass FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Sponsor

    1 year ago

    They should do these every 6 months to even further defend/prove their points

  • Wulfurion FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Wulf#1988 on Bnet B)

    1 year ago

    Enjoyed the episode, but damn Adam. You came across as extremely stubborn in your mindset with addiction and mental health in regards to what a simple splash screen could do to help.

    • Chad1888 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      I wasn't sure if he was just playing Devils Advocate or not. Since he seemed to be very quick to jump from "just put up a screen" to "the government is going to sit behind you while you play and turn off the machine after 2 hours to keep you safe because they love you, trust them, they love you" *pat on head, stroke cheek*


      Not something I'd expect from him or anyone else at RT/AH/FH


      ......well maybe Joel Heyman



  • Cole2999 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    This was my first Dude Soup podcast, and I loved it.

    [About the forum]

    I love the way they don't try to be funny in this. I only found Funhaus because they joined RT, and that's one thing that sometimes frustrates me with AH: they're always making comedy. This is really nice to see them as real people.


    [About the content]

    Well, I think the gaming being addicted stole the show on this, and holy shit, that was an amazing talk. Really brilliant conversation, really drastic view differences. Well worth a watch.


    This is pretty much the end of the comment on my opinion of the show (which was fantastic). Everything after this is fluff about my opinion on the subject of this podcast.


    Other than gaming addiction, I do think a lot of the reason the internet is filled with people who act like they know everything (and honestly, no hate to those people, it's not their fault), is because they sort of do, in the vaguest sense.

    People born into the internet age have the largest collection of knowledge on Earth available to them at the touch of a button. They don't have to try and fail to rebuild an engine, then take a class and have it become second nature, they can look it up and do it once. They don't have to code day in and day out to get a project done in time for launch, only for it to be a buggy nightmare, they just see the buggy nightmare (this is not excusing companies of shitty releases, more excusing some smaller indie devs without beta testing. Games like Fallout have beta testers and have a very narrow window for excuses. IMO).


    People have a (metaphorical) screen between them and the world. This screen filters all the experience and work that goes into these masterpieces of art we call automotive (or any form of, for that matter) engineering, or politics, or video games. They see the end result, and judge it based on that.

    I'm going to try to put it in perspective. Stonehenge. This wonder is an amazing work of art (of aliens, natural forces, whatever. Regardless, it's still art). Many people (not of the internet age) would see this in photos, magazines, or even just hear about it, and think of its wonder and mysteries. Now, people of the internet age would probably click on a .jpeg of it, say "It's a bunch of rocks" and click off to a booby site.

    Back to the point, those born into the internet age only see the end result and have a harder time appreciating or, for that matter, even understanding. With the collection of the world's knowledge at their hands, they never need to master or even learn a subject, only how to do it. Knowledge is not comprehension. Knowing how to do something, or knowing how a game is made, is not actually doing it, not actually investing not only one's time, but one's self into doing it.


    From what I've seen, many people from the internet age do believe more strongly that their opinion is fact, because there are sites filled with other people who believe the same exact thing. A good analogy is if Nintendo Power (RIP my 6 years of subscription) had said Super Smash Bros Brawl was the best game of the year on any console. Well, they're speaking from a company filled with people who are supposed to promote this game. It's a bit of a stretch, because they'd be forced to say that, and they're not an objective source, but the basic analogy is there.

    The reason I think that is the case is a mix of having the world's knowledge at their fingertips and also their youthful immaturity. I'm going to make a blanket statement (*gulp*) and say that everyone, as a kid, thought they knew a hell of a lot more than they really did.


    Now, what weight do my words have, why should anyone believe what I say? I'm from the beginning of the internet age ('97). But... doesn't that contradict what I'm saying? Yes. For all I know, I could be talking out my fucking ass. But I at least am saying this all with the context that, well, it is just my opinion, and I don't want to pass it off as fact.


    If anyone would like to continue with this intellectual discussion, put your thoughts below. I'd love to hear it, but for the love of god, don't be a fucking tool.

  • CircuitsMan

    1 year ago

    The video doesn't play for me, but I found it over on Youtube:

    • Tauxcinity FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Xantrax

      1 year ago

      Thank you, sir! You made my life easier. <3

    • Wulfurion FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Wulf#1988 on Bnet B)

      1 year ago

      Greatly appreciated!

    • Trevmann13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      You're the real MVP!

      Seriously, anyone know why it isnt playing??

    • Pleblu FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      It isnt for me eaither. You're a life saver.